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Re: [epp-dev] Vote for Committer status for Gunnar Wagenknecht was started by Martin Oberhuber

I agree with Doug. While the only way to get a project's package onto the download page is via EPP, it is very inconvenient for projects that have multiple people responsible for releng to have to have only one of those able to make changes when necessary. I wouldn't object to this so much if projects were able to publish their own packages [1] but this doesn't seem to be an option any time soon.

Greg

1. See https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=412864

On Oct 3, 2013, at 9:45 AM, Doug Schaefer <DSchaefer@xxxxxxx> wrote:

No I mean having a second person who can do pushes. I don't understand the limitation and how it puts us in a better space. You can pick one to be "responsible", the package lead as it were, but I'd rather have multiple people who have commit rights to that package to make sure we have redundancy, just like we desire for our projects.

Doug.


From: Markus Knauer <mknauer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: Eclipse Packaging Project <epp-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thursday, 3 October, 2013 4:11 AM
To: Eclipse Packaging Project <epp-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [epp-dev] Vote for Committer status for Gunnar Wagenknecht was started by Martin Oberhuber

If it is about pushing changes to Git, then I think there are always enough other committers around who can push those changes, even if it is not 'their' package. And I did this many times for others when they were asking for a change, a removal, or an addition on a bug report.

If it is about testing and voting (I guess that's the main point of your question), then you just need to look into the mail archives that I always took +1 votes from trusted persons other than the 'maintainer'. Examples are the Testing and the Scout packages; for both packages we receive votes on the mailing list from persons that I trust to have the knowledge and the authority to give a +1, but they are not committers on the project.

For me it is important to have a single person who is responsible for a package and that this person can push changes to Git, but that doesn't mean that there cannot be additional package testers. In fact some packages are listing many on the packages page (e.g. [1] on the bottom right). My fear is that it wouldn't solve any problem if there was more than one committer per package, it just adds more overhead. In my opinion the main problem is the (limited) testing itself that could be improved.

[1] http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/packages/node/1089

Thanks,
Markus


On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Doug Schaefer <dschaefer@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Can I bring up that the 1 committer thing is a pretty bad rule? Every
package should have two committers to ensure we have redundancy.

Doug.

On 2013-10-02 11:35 AM, "portal on behalf of "
<portal-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>technology.packaging Committers,
>This automatically generated message signals that Martin Oberhuber has
>nominated Gunnar Wagenknecht as a Committer on the technology.packaging
>project. The reason given is as follows:
>
>Gunnar has volunteered to take over maintainership of the "Standard"
>package, thus I'm nominating him for commit privileges.
>
>Due to the EPP policy of "1 committer per package only" I'm offering my
>resignation as EPP committer at the same time. Thanks for all the support
>that the EPP team has given bringing "standard" to life - particularly
>thanks to Markus Knauer and David Williams; now that the standard package
>is established, it's time for me to hand over the keys.
>
>Thanks,
>Martin
>
>
>The vote is being held via the MyFoundation portal: voters *must* use the
>portal for the votes to be properly recorded.  The voting will continue
>until either all 19 existing Committers have voted or until they have been
>given enough time to vote, even if they do not do so (defined as at least
>one week). Gunnar Wagenknecht must receive at least three +1s and no -1s
>for a successful election.
>
>Eligible Committers must cast their votes through their My Foundation
>portal page (do NOT just reply to this email; your vote will not be
>correctly recorded unless you use the portal):
>
>    http://portal.eclipse.org/
>
>The project Committers eligible to vote are:
>
>    Wayne Beaton
>    Chuck Bridgham
>    Cedric Brun
>    Eric Cloninger
>    Stephan Eberle
>    Xiaoying Gu
>    Andreas Hoegger
>    Dennis Huebner
>    Jeff Johnston
>    Markus Knauer
>    Henrik Lindberg
>    Martin Oberhuber
>    Andrew Overholt
>    Steffen Pingel
>    Doug Schaefer
>    Beth Tibbitts
>    Markus Tiede
>    David Williams
>    Tomasz Zarna
>
>*NOTE*: Successful elections are left open for a maximum of 120 days to
>allow for processing of paperwork.  After that time the election will be
>expired, regardless of its current status.  Should papework processing on
>the part of the candidate take more time than allowed, a new election will
>have to be held.
>
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