RE: [epf-dev] OpenUP Summary Graphic

["Scott W. Ambler" <swa@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Perhaps we could have a light image of the humps in the background?

We could call the daily build something else -- working software perhaps?

-Scott
On Fri, October 12, 2007 5:16 am, Ben Williams said:
> Our experience is that the reaction is far less positive when talking to
> software departments within companies with a wider system or mechanical
> engineering focus.
>
> Ben
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: Re: [epf-dev] OpenUP Summary Graphic
>
> My 2cents
>
> I talked through this diagram with someone new to OpenUP recently and
> the gears idea really worked for them. The concept that actual work
> pushes the project through the phase milestones rather than the team
> being pushed through an arbitrary phase plan seemed to work well in
> discussion.
> I agree with the idea that the micro-increment should have a build
> product associated with it. What we label it is open for discussion but
> it should be distinguished from a "shippable build".
> During discussion (and not for the first time) I found myself flipping
> back to the classic RUP humpback diagram to emphasise that there is
> activity from many disciplines in a phase increment - the old "iterative
> not waterfall" discussion still lives :-). I seem to recall a discussion
> about dropping this approach from our graphic but this may have created
> a gap in the message.
> Overall though, the response to the graphic has been vet positive, in my
> experience.
> Cheers
> Mark
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott W. Ambler" [swa@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 10/11/2007 11:45 AM
> To: "Eclipse Process Framework Project Developers List"
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> Subject: RE: [epf-dev] OpenUP Summary Graphic
>
>
> A few thoughts
> 1. The gears are a bit distracting.  We should clean them up.
> 2. Each of the rows should produce something.  i.e. the daily cycle
> results in a working build.  This would help to get the idea across that
> working software is a major deliverable.
>
> Scott
>
> On Wed, October 10, 2007 10:00 pm, Nate Oster said:
>> I'm a big fan of the graphic, so I'm obviously biased, but I do see
> the
>> concern what I start thinking about it too much.  It's that pesky
>> physics always intruding on our mental models! ;)
>>
>>
>>
>> Anyway, if the notion is simply to make the gears more physically
>> accurate, then I think they need teeth that are spaced properly.  The
>> Work Items gear, for example, could have only one tooth, so that each
>> completed work item advances the iteration by one "increment" toward
>> completion of a shippable Build.
>>
>>
>>
>> I DO like the "elongated tooth" on the Iteration gear.  Now if we
> could
>> just get it to make sense.  I think it's just a matter of visual
>> spacing.  There must be an engineer who can help us poor software
> people
>> out.  :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Nate Oster
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
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>> From: epf-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:epf-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of Ben Williams
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 7:15 AM
>> To: Eclipse Process Framework Project Developers List
>> Subject: [epf-dev] OpenUP Summary Graphic
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi all
>>
>>
>>
>> We have been speaking with various customers about EPF and OpenUP.
>>
>>
>>
>> We have received feedback that the main OpenUP graphic (the cogs) is
>> distracting because:
>>
>>
>>
>> - it uses a mechanical metaphor to illustrate an integrated process,
> yet
>> the mechanics do not mesh
>>
>> - there is no way that the two cogs could actually mesh
>>
>> - the elongated tooth on the iteration cog is odd
>>
>> - these issues distract from the conceptual message being conveyed
>>
>>
>>
>> I have attached a modified version - this is just an example of how
> the
>> deficiencies in the graphic could be addressed - the graphic should be
>> corrected properly by someone with better photoshop skills :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>>
>>
>> Ben
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