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RE: [epf-dev] Spanish translation proposal (or again, the translation topic)


Aitor, great news.

We have been using the EPFWiki to facilitate the translation effort.
We currently have two variants of OpenUP Wikis (other than the English version): Portuguese and Russian.
Contributors are making the translation directly in the Wiki, where others can provide quick feedback.

It's important to use Bugzilla to capture a bug describing distribution of work, plans for achieving a first release, etc.
At some point in time, committers will harvest the translated material using the mechanisms expected by Eclipse organization.

There is a document available that explains part of this process (not the use of the Wiki itself, but the creation of baselines to start work, and more):
(http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/*checkout*/org.eclipse.epf/docs/Translating%20Method%20Content%20Guideline.rtf?cvsroot=Technology_Project&content-type=text/htm)

Let me synch up with Onno (LogicaCMG) so we make a OpenUP_SP Wiki available for the Spanish translation effort.
We will keep you posted.

Thanks.

Ricardo Balduino
Senior Software Engineer

IBM Rational Software (www.ibm.com/rational)
Eclipse Process Framework (www.eclipse.org/epf)



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Dear all,
 
At European Software Institute (ESI) we are doing some efforts to create a group of people interested in translating OpenUP/Basic from english to Spanish. Which are the steps for doing that is there any document explaing how to do it?
 
Can we use EPFWiki for that? Or we have to use bugzilla?
 
Regards,
 
Aitor.


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Ferran, thanks once again for your offer. Yes, we are back to the translation topic again :-)


To the best of my knowledge, these are the translation proposals currently made:


- Scrum: from French to English and Portuguese

- XP: from English to Spanish

- OpenUP/Basic: from English to Portuguese, Spanish and Russian


It is true that there is an agreement on waiting until OpenUP 1.0 is released, so the content is stable for translation.
However, there is currently translation work being done on the Scrum plug-in. We have set up an initial infrastructure, but as the translation effort scales up, we may need to elaborate some guidelines on how to perform translation and integration of translated content


I see some areas we need to address:

- We may need separate components in Bugzilla to assign bugs. I don't think putting a qualifier in front of the bug description - such as we are doing for OpenUP - will scale up.

- There may be a need for separate mail lists in EPF or forums such as Yahoo groups. Translators may want to discuss terminology issues with their communities in their own language.

- Infrastructure: either make copy of library for translation or have html pages that are exported and imported back to the library. Either require coordination and integration into CVS by committer(s).


Any other considerations?


Cheers,


Ricardo Balduino
Senior Software Engineer

IBM Rational (www.ibm.com/rational)
EPF Committer (www.eclipse.org/epf)

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Hi,

I'm interested in translating OpenUP and XP from English to Spanish. Ricardo told me that there are more people interested in translating contents to other languages. But I have read in previous posts that general consensus is waiting to v1.0 of OpenUp.

So what do you think? May I start the translation process or it's better to wait until there are more stable contents? Have you established any translation guidelines?

Regards,
 Ferran

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