RE: [epf-dev] EPF Wiki and contributing through a Wiki (epfwiki.net)

[Ricardo Balduino <balduino@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Onno, I've had some issues with Firefox,
as I mentioned to you, but I don't know about others. Maybe I should upgrade
to a new version of Firefox. 

Text search may be a helpful feature
to have.
Showing changed pages (as compared to
a baseline) may prove to be really useful, specially for the translation
effort to keep up with the original Web site evolution.
Upload of images is also important,
since new and translated content will have to deal with images.
The report below seems good in terms
of info (who, what, when...). I think we should try sending automatically
to epf-dev (maybe weekly?) so everyone has a sense of what has happened
and take any actions needed.

One question about the comments we put
in pages on the translated Web sites: do we need to always put comments
in English,  or can people use the language subject of translation?
Do others care about comments being posted in other languages than English?
Or would comments in English make it easier in case a broader discussion
is needed? Just a thought.

Thanks,

Ricardo Balduino
Senior Software Engineer

IBM Rational Software (www.ibm.com/rational)
Eclipse Process Framework (www.eclipse.org/epf)

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Ricardo, Jim, 
 
I have available some time this week to implement some enhancements, but
now I'm not sure about priority, I got the impression that most of us use
FireFox; maybe it is better to improve FireFox support first? There are
some options for improvements I considered earlier:
- fix FireFox issues;
- full text search;
- baseline changes: show changes (new, removed,
changed pages) after baseline update;
- upload of images and documents (this functionality
was lost with cleanup of code);
- and of course: update epf-dev mailing
list with Wiki changes;
Any other suggestions you might
have we can consider too of course.
 
About the information we could
extract: most of the information is already in the (daily, weekly, monthly)
change report; I copied the contents of the report below as an example.
We could show for each Wiki: name
and baseline, the contributed pages and versions of pages and comments.
For each page and version: title with link to the page, version info and
version note. For each comment: text (truncated to 50 chars?), link to
comments, page and version info. For each contribution the user (name and
ID).
 
Other useful information might
be the baseline changes (new, removed, changed pages) in each weekly build
of OpenUP.
 Best
Regards,
Onno

 [EPF Wiki] Monthly Change Report - April 2007
Wiki Sites

Site	Baseline	New Versions	New Comments	Checkouts
OpenUP	OpenUP_Basic_published-0.9-W-20070406	4 (from 4)	3 (from 3)	1	New!
XP	XP_published-0.1-20071601	0 (from 0)	0 (from 0)	0	New!
OpenUP PT	OUP_PT_20070403	22 (from 22)	0 (from 0)	1	New!
Scrum	SCRUM_20070410	0 (from 0)	0 (from 0)	0	New!
OpenUP RU	OUP_RU_20070410	0 (from 0)	0 (from 0)	0	New!

New Versions

Page	Version	Note	Site	Created
Glossário de Tradução	Version 5	Adding more content	OpenUP PT	about 4 hours ago by Paulo Moreira
Concept: Collaborate to align interests and share understanding	Version 2	terminado	OpenUP PT	about 4 hours ago by takai
Task: Plan Iteration	Version 1	Resolution of BUG 170803	OpenUP	about 19 hours ago by Ana Paula Valente Pereira
Concept: Collaborate to align interests and share understanding	Version 1	Tradução parcial.	OpenUP PT	about 20 hours ago by takai
Concept: Balance competing priorities to maximize stakeholder value	Version 2	Acerto da formatação	OpenUP PT	about 20 hours ago by takai
Concept: Balance competing priorities to maximize stakeholder value	Version 1		OpenUP PT	about 23 hours ago by takai
Custom Category	Version 4	Correção: alinhas para alinhar.	OpenUP PT	1 day ago by takai
Guideline: Minimal, Complete, and Extensible	Version 2		OpenUP PT	1 day ago by takai
Guideline: Minimal, Complete, and Extensible	Version 1		OpenUP PT	1 day ago by takai
Guideline: OpenUP and OpenUP/Basic	Version 1		OpenUP PT	1 day ago by takai
Custom Category	Version 3		OpenUP PT	1 day ago by takai
Custom Category	Version 2		OpenUP PT	1 day ago by takai
Custom Category	Version 1		OpenUP PT	1 day ago by takai
Glossário de Tradução	Version 4		OpenUP PT	1 day ago by takai
Glossário de Tradução	Version 3	Including some terms	OpenUP PT	1 day ago by Paulo Moreira
Custom Category	Version 6	Added link to Translation Glossary to top of intro page for easy access. Remove link when we are done with translation, but save page somewhere else.	OpenUP PT	1 day ago by Ricardo Balduino
Glossário de Tradução	Version 2		OpenUP PT	1 day ago by Ricardo Balduino
Glossário de Tradução	Version 1	Translation glossary created to help translation process.	OpenUP PT	1 day ago by Ricardo Balduino
Custom Category	Version 5	Link added at the bottom of the page didn't work. Making it plain text, so we remember to add the link later.	OpenUP PT	1 day ago by Ricardo Balduino
Custom Category	Version 4	Mudei acentuação e acrescentei um link no final to texto, que foi já adicionado ao OpenUP/Basic original	OpenUP PT	1 day ago by Ricardo Balduino
Discipline: Architecture	Version 1		OpenUP	1 day ago by Jim Ruehlin
Guideline: Software Reuse	Version 1		OpenUP	1 day ago by Jim Ruehlin
Custom Category	Version 3	pequena correção: de balanciar para balancear	OpenUP PT	5 days ago by zalkind
Custom Category	Version 2	Some minor changes after review	OpenUP PT	5 days ago by Paulo Moreira
Custom Category	Version 1	First translation to Portuguese	OpenUP PT	6 days ago by Paulo Moreira
Role: Developer	Version 1	I changed the brief description and added a link to the test case in the modifies area.	OpenUP	13 days ago by Brian Lyons

New Comments

Comment	Page	Site	Created
I wonder if we want to say ...	Role: Developer	OpenUP	6 days ago by Jim Ruehlin
This discipline has changed...	Discipline: Implementation	OpenUP	13 days ago by Jim Ruehlin
This discipline has changed...	Discipline: Analysis & Design	OpenUP	13 days ago by Jim Ruehlin

New Users

Allan Halme, takai, zalkind, Ronaldo Luiz, tom weinberger, Paulo Moreira, Calen Legaspi, Aitor, hopeshared, Onno

Checkouts

Page	Version	Site	Created
Guideline: Minimal, Complete, and Extensible	Version 2	OpenUP PT	1 day ago by takai
Task: Plan Iteration	Version 1	OpenUP	about 19 hours ago by Ana Paula Valente Pereira

 

Generated on: Wed Apr 11 10:43:05 -0700 2007
Showing changes since: Mon Mar 12 10:43:05 -0700 2007
 

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There's a separate thread I'm having with Eclipse legal on this very topic.
I'll post to this list when I get an answer from them.

Thanks, 

Ricardo Balduino
Senior Software Engineer

IBM Rational Software (www.ibm.com/rational)
Eclipse Process Framework (www.eclipse.org/epf)

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I agree Onno, this is a great idea. Should we have a meeting to figure
out the process by which the contributions and comments would work before
we check with Eclipse legal? Or can we reference the wiki in epf-dev and
newsgroup threads? 
  
BTW, the RSS feed for wiki changes is a great feature too!
  
Thanks, 
Jim 
  
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Onno, 

I think it is a great idea to periodically send an automatic message to
epf-dev with a summary of what has been contributed to the Wiki. We'd need
to clear with Eclipse legal that this approach works though.

I'd say we start with weekly reports, so we have a sense of the volume
of contributions. 

What information could we automatically extract? It would be interesting
to see in this report, as a minimum:
- Web site name and version
- list of pages contributed/changed, 
- list of contributors 
       - name or user ID
       - date of contribution
       - material contributed (this may be too much, a link
to the Wiki page may be more feasible)
- any other information? 

Thanks, 

Ricardo Balduino
Senior Software Engineer

IBM Rational Software (www.ibm.com/rational)
Eclipse Process Framework (www.eclipse.org/epf)

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Hi group,
Last week I created a new site http://epfwiki.net with the Wiki technology that was donated by LogicaCMG and that is currently under Eclipse Legal Review. The trigger for creating this site is the translation effort, but of course it can also host regular weekly builds of published sites that can be downloaded from http://www.eclipse.org/epf. I like to consider this site an unofficial EPF community site, sponsored by LogicaCMG, created using software that will eventually be EPF software, after a positive Eclipse Legal Review.

There is also a demo site http://demo.epfwiki.net with a demo account demo@xxxxxxxxxxx with password demo where you can try out this technology.

An interesting was raised by Ricardo while we were discussing use of it for the translation effort: how Wikis can be accepted as a means of contributing as expected by the Eclipse organization. Of course this is an unofficial site but it would be nice if contributions made there would also be recognized by the Eclipse organization, similar to Bugzilla and the official discussions lists.

I think there are a number of approaches to this interesting issue. I like to present what I think is a pragmatic approach: send every Wiki contribution to the epf-dev mailing list. We could do this real-time or send a daily, weekly or even monthly report. Do you think this is a viable option, good approach? If we think it is, I like to ask the committers to make a decision on it and maybe put it to a vote?
Best Regards,
Onno

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