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Onno, I've had some issues with Firefox, as I mentioned to you, but I don't know about others. Maybe I should upgrade to a new version of Firefox.

Text search may be a helpful feature to have.
Showing changed pages (as compared to a baseline) may prove to be really useful, specially for the translation effort to keep up with the original Web site evolution.
Upload of images is also important, since new and translated content will have to deal with images.
The report below seems good in terms of info (who, what, when...). I think we should try sending automatically to epf-dev (maybe weekly?) so everyone has a sense of what has happened and take any actions needed.

One question about the comments we put in pages on the translated Web sites: do we need to always put comments in English,  or can people use the language subject of translation? Do others care about comments being posted in other languages than English? Or would comments in English make it easier in case a broader discussion is needed? Just a thought.

Thanks,

Ricardo Balduino
Senior Software Engineer

IBM Rational Software (www.ibm.com/rational)
Eclipse Process Framework (www.eclipse.org/epf)


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Ricardo, Jim,
  I have available some time this week to implement some enhancements, but now I'm not sure about priority, I got the impression that most of us use FireFox; maybe it is better to improve FireFox support first? There are some options for improvements I considered earlier:
- fix FireFox issues;
- full text search;
- baseline changes: show changes (new, removed, changed pages) after baseline update;
- upload of images and documents (this functionality was lost with cleanup of code);
- and of course: update epf-dev mailing list with Wiki changes;
Any other suggestions you might have we can consider too of course.
 
About the information we could extract: most of the information is already in the (daily, weekly, monthly) change report; I copied the contents of the report below as an example.
We could show for each Wiki: name and baseline, the contributed pages and versions of pages and comments. For each page and version: title with link to the page, version info and version note. For each comment: text (truncated to 50 chars?), link to comments, page and version info. For each contribution the user (name and ID).
 
Other useful information might be the baseline changes (new, removed, changed pages) in each weekly build of OpenUP.
 Best Regards,
Onno
 

 [EPF Wiki] Monthly Change Report - April 2007
Wiki Sites

Site
Baseline
New Versions
New Comments
Checkouts
 
OpenUP OpenUP_Basic_published-0.9-W-20070406
4 (from 4)
3 (from 3)
1
New!
XP XP_published-0.1-20071601
0 (from 0)
0 (from 0)
0
New!
OpenUP PT OUP_PT_20070403
22 (from 22)
0 (from 0)
1
New!
Scrum SCRUM_20070410
0 (from 0)
0 (from 0)
0
New!
OpenUP RU OUP_RU_20070410
0 (from 0)
0 (from 0)
0
New!

New Versions

Page
Version
Note
Site
Created
Glossário de Tradução Version 5 Adding more content OpenUP PT about 4 hours ago by Paulo Moreira
Concept: Collaborate to align interests and share understanding Version 2 terminado OpenUP PT about 4 hours ago by takai
Task: Plan Iteration Version 1 Resolution of BUG 170803 OpenUP about 19 hours ago by Ana Paula Valente Pereira
Concept: Collaborate to align interests and share understanding Version 1 Tradução parcial. OpenUP PT about 20 hours ago by takai
Concept: Balance competing priorities to maximize stakeholder value Version 2 Acerto da formatação OpenUP PT about 20 hours ago by takai
Concept: Balance competing priorities to maximize stakeholder value Version 1   OpenUP PT about 23 hours ago by takai
Custom Category Version 4 Correção: alinhas para alinhar. OpenUP PT 1 day ago by takai
Guideline: Minimal, Complete, and Extensible Version 2   OpenUP PT 1 day ago by takai
Guideline: Minimal, Complete, and Extensible Version 1   OpenUP PT 1 day ago by takai
Guideline: OpenUP and OpenUP/Basic Version 1   OpenUP PT 1 day ago by takai
Custom Category Version 3   OpenUP PT 1 day ago by takai
Custom Category Version 2   OpenUP PT 1 day ago by takai
Custom Category Version 1   OpenUP PT 1 day ago by takai
Glossário de Tradução Version 4   OpenUP PT 1 day ago by takai
Glossário de Tradução Version 3 Including some terms OpenUP PT 1 day ago by Paulo Moreira
Custom Category Version 6 Added link to Translation Glossary to top of intro page for easy access. Remove link when we are done with translation, but save page somewhere else. OpenUP PT 1 day ago by Ricardo Balduino
Glossário de Tradução Version 2   OpenUP PT 1 day ago by Ricardo Balduino
Glossário de Tradução Version 1 Translation glossary created to help translation process. OpenUP PT 1 day ago by Ricardo Balduino
Custom Category Version 5 Link added at the bottom of the page didn't work. Making it plain text, so we remember to add the link later. OpenUP PT 1 day ago by Ricardo Balduino
Custom Category Version 4 Mudei acentuação e acrescentei um link no final to texto, que foi já adicionado ao OpenUP/Basic original OpenUP PT 1 day ago by Ricardo Balduino
Discipline: Architecture Version 1   OpenUP 1 day ago by Jim Ruehlin
Guideline: Software Reuse Version 1   OpenUP 1 day ago by Jim Ruehlin
Custom Category Version 3 pequena correção: de balanciar para balancear OpenUP PT 5 days ago by zalkind
Custom Category Version 2 Some minor changes after review OpenUP PT 5 days ago by Paulo Moreira
Custom Category Version 1 First translation to Portuguese OpenUP PT 6 days ago by Paulo Moreira
Role: Developer Version 1 I changed the brief description and added a link to the test case in the modifies area. OpenUP 13 days ago by Brian Lyons

New Comments

Comment
Page
Site
Created
I wonder if we want to say ... Role: Developer OpenUP 6 days ago by Jim Ruehlin
This discipline has changed... Discipline: Implementation OpenUP 13 days ago by Jim Ruehlin
This discipline has changed... Discipline: Analysis & Design OpenUP 13 days ago by Jim Ruehlin

New Users

Allan Halme, takai, zalkind, Ronaldo Luiz, tom weinberger, Paulo Moreira, Calen Legaspi, Aitor, hopeshared, Onno

Checkouts

Page
Version
Site
Created
Guideline: Minimal, Complete, and Extensible Version 2 OpenUP PT 1 day ago by takai
Task: Plan Iteration Version 1 OpenUP about 19 hours ago by Ana Paula Valente Pereira

 

Generated on: Wed Apr 11 10:43:05 -0700 2007
Showing changes since: Mon Mar 12 10:43:05 -0700 2007
 



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There's a separate thread I'm having with Eclipse legal on this very topic. I'll post to this list when I get an answer from them.

Thanks,

Ricardo Balduino
Senior Software Engineer

IBM Rational Software (www.ibm.com/rational)
Eclipse Process Framework (www.eclipse.org/epf)

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I agree Onno, this is a great idea. Should we have a meeting to figure out the process by which the contributions and comments would work before we check with Eclipse legal? Or can we reference the wiki in epf-dev and newsgroup threads?
 
BTW, the RSS feed for wiki changes is a great feature too!
 
Thanks,
Jim
 
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Onno,

I think it is a great idea to periodically send an automatic message to epf-dev with a summary of what has been contributed to the Wiki. We'd need to clear with Eclipse legal that this approach works though.

I'd say we start with weekly reports, so we have a sense of the volume of contributions.

What information could we automatically extract? It would be interesting to see in this report, as a minimum:
- Web site name and version
- list of pages contributed/changed,
- list of contributors
      - name or user ID
      - date of contribution
      - material contributed (this may be too much, a link to the Wiki page may be more feasible)
- any other information?

Thanks,

Ricardo Balduino
Senior Software Engineer

IBM Rational Software (www.ibm.com/rational)
Eclipse Process Framework (www.eclipse.org/epf)

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Hi group,
Last week I created a new site http://epfwiki.net with the Wiki technology that was donated by LogicaCMG and that is currently under Eclipse Legal Review. The trigger for creating this site is the translation effort, but of course it can also host regular weekly builds of published sites that can be downloaded from http://www.eclipse.org/epf. I like to consider this site an unofficial EPF community site, sponsored by LogicaCMG, created using software that will eventually be EPF software, after a positive Eclipse Legal Review.

There is also a demo site http://demo.epfwiki.net with a demo account demo@xxxxxxxxxxx with password demo where you can try out this technology.

An interesting was raised by Ricardo while we were discussing use of it for the translation effort: how Wikis can be accepted as a means of contributing as expected by the Eclipse organization. Of course this is an unofficial site but it would be nice if contributions made there would also be recognized by the Eclipse organization, similar to Bugzilla and the official discussions lists.

I think there are a number of approaches to this interesting issue. I like to present what I think is a pragmatic approach: send every Wiki contribution to the epf-dev mailing list. We could do this real-time or send a daily, weekly or even monthly report. Do you think this is a viable option, good approach? If we think it is, I like to ask the committers to make a decision on it and maybe put it to a vote?
Best Regards,
Onno

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