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RE: [epf-dev] Sabre's Agile Methodology: OpenUP-ish?
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- From: "Scott W. Ambler" <swa@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 14:46:41 -0500 (EST)
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You might find http://www.agilemodeling.com/essays/agileUsability.htm to
be of interest.
- Scott
On Sun, March 4, 2007 1:26 pm, Nate Oster said:
> It's a "mainstream press" article in ComputerWorld, and it looks like
> it's been edited to death. I'm pretty sure the UML faux paux is from a
> redaction. They clearly mean RUP.
>
>
>
> It's funny that such a short article should zero right in on two areas
> that Number Six has also had challenges with when enacting RUP with
> clients - integrating User Experience (UX), and effectively tailoring
> the Deployment discipline.
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>
>
> Sabre said that "User-interface design techniques, for instance, are
> typically treated separately, and deployment into production isn't
> usually addressed"
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>
>
> UX is an area that we've been heavily involved with effectively
> integrating into OpenUP at our www.myhealth.va.gov
> <http://www.myhealth.va.gov/> portal client, where we've gained a lot
> of experience about how to make UX a normal part of iterative,
> incremental development throughout the lifecycle. Actually doing
> lightweight UX processes turns out to be a lot more focused in the A&D
> and Implementation disciplines than it is in Requirements.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Nate
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: epf-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:epf-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Scott W. Ambler
> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 9:04 AM
> To: Eclipse Process Framework Project Developers List
> Subject: Re: [epf-dev] Sabre's Agile Methodology: OpenUP-ish?
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>
>
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>
> On Sun, March 4, 2007 8:06 am, Brian Lyons said:
>
>> hiho,
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>>
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>>
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>> I was surfing around looking at some pages relating to the usage of
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>> agile techniques and I came across this very small article
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> <http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic
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>> &articleId=273413> referencing the success Sabre is having in
> applying
>
>> an agile process.
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>> I was sort of put off by this erroneous-sounding snippet: "Sabre's
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>> approach to agile development draws from other iterative programming
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>> techniques such as UML". Certainly UML can be an important
> development
>
>> technique applied in iterative development, but I wouldn't casually
>
>> reference it as an "iterative programming technique".
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>
>
> You naively assume that the writer understands the material that they're
>
> writing about. ;-)
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>> Anyway, the intriguing quote is this one: "As Sabre began developing a
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>> runtime infrastructure in 2004, project iterations would typically
> start
>
>> with an inception phase - an evaluation of what Sabre's products could
>
>> do in a Web services environment - followed by an elaboration phase".
>
>> Hmmm, agility and a set of phases starting with inception and then
> going
>
>> on to elaboration. And usage of UML. Sounds like a great idea!
>
>
>
> Definitely. Does anyone have any contacts at Sabre? Perhaps we should
>
> approach them?
>
>
>
> - Scott
>
> Practice Leader Agile Development, IBM Rational
>
> http://www-306.ibm.com/software/rational/bios/ambler.html
>
>
>
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>
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>
> available.
>
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http://www.ambysoft.com/books/refactoringDatabases.html ) is now
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