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Re: [epf-dev] Scrum Process Donation Accepted: Magnifique!

Look forward to it Michael.

Cheers,
-Lyndon-

On 2/14/07, Michael Vizdos <mvizdos@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi all,

Just wanted to check in.  The Scrum Plugin that I'd like to develop
may not be the same as the French version.  It will start out light
and we can iterate it as needed.  I will post a doc tonight with my
ideas for people to review if you are interested.

- mike

On 2/14/07, Lyndon Washington < hoshposh@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Corey,
>
> Your points are valid, though my original track was based on how we manage
> our resource strings for Internatiionalization.  I would not create a
> completely new version of an Eclipse plugin for each language, rather I
> would have the functionality the same, and the string resourced.
>
> Thanks for the interaction.
>
>
> -Lyndon-
>
>
> On 2/14/07, Corey Segall <coreysegall@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Lyndon,
> >
> >    So having a single organziational proces site (portal) where you
> house/link all of your
> > organizations processes wouldnt work? From the front end the end users
> dont necessarly know these
> > are different sites is what I am getting at.
> >
> > For example you may have various process methodolgy sections within a
> single portal website which
> > one of them might include SCRUM.
> >
> > Example:
> >
> > ABC Company Methodologies Site
> >
> > Scrum Process
> >    English Version (links to the english website)
> >    French Version (links to the french website)
> >
> > XP Process
> >   English Version (links to the english website)
> >   French Version (links to the french website)
> >
> > RUP Process
> >   English Version (links to the english website)
> >   French Version (links to the french website)
> >
> > ect...
> >
> > This is exactly what google and yahoo do today to support mutiple
> languages(I believe). Or is
> > there a practical need for you to have both french and english embeded
> throughout the same site?
> >
> > It takes 10-20 minutes to publish most plugins. So im not sure what the
> negative is of having two
> > published websites in whch you provide links to them under a portal site
> (like shown above)?
> >
> > But if you really want to have one site and one plugin I'd imagine you
> could have French Tree Tabs
> > and English Tree tabs and only have to worry about the framework labels
> displaying the languages
> > side by side. For example the word Activity would be Activity/French
> Version whether your in the
> > French process tab or the English process tab.
> >
> >
> > My 2 cents.
> >
> > Corey Segall
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Corey
> >
> > --- Lyndon Washington <hoshposh@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Corey,
> > >
> > > In this situation that might be the best, and most productive way
> forward,
> > > but for multi-lingual companies (like mine) where the value of being
> able to
> > > publish from one plugin the same information for consumption by multiple
> > > readers, is this something that EPF supports today?  Just curious :)
> > >
> > > -Lyndon-
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2/14/07, Corey Segall <coreysegall@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Lyndon,
> > > >
> > > > I would recommend just having a English plugin and a French plugin. We
> > > > would take what Claude did
> > > > asnd translate it into English and create a English plug-in version.
> Then
> > > > you can choose which
> > > > version you want to publish.
> > > >
> > > > In the end I would keep them as seperate sites instead of trying to
> > > > combined them under one site.
> > > >
> > > > Corey Segall
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- Lyndon Washington < hoshposh@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I took the initiative of pinging Claude in a private email to see if
> he
> > > > was
> > > > > open to English contributions.  One thing that I was wondering was
> if
> > > > EPF
> > > > > supported a process plugin to have content in multiple langages.  In
> > > > other
> > > > > words, Claude has the Scrum roles, and I would hope that if people
> > > > > contributed English to his plugin that depending on the browser
> setting
> > > > to
> > > > > see the roles in either French or English.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thoughts/corrections?
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > -Lyndon-
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 2/14/07, Corey Segall < coreysegall@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A fellow process engineer peer of mine also does professional
> french
> > > > to
> > > > > > english (and reverse)
> > > > > > translations for company manuals, user guides, etc. He might be
> > > > willing to
> > > > > > volunteer his time and
> > > > > > translate this if you still have a need? We may have him do this
> in
> > > > > > anycase for our organization
> > > > > > so we can leverage this process.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Corey Segall
> > > > > > Sr. Process Engineer Consultant
> > > > > > Princeton Information
> > > > > > Phone:512-653-3882
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- Lyndon Washington <hoshposh@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Greetings!  First thanks for a great product and framework to
> allow
> > > > > > > processes to be documented.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Scrum, I was getting ready to ramp up on epf to document this
> > > > very
> > > > > > > process, for consumption within my own company.  Are there plans
> to
> > > > > > provide
> > > > > > > this in multiple languages?  Is this part of the epf project, or
> a
> > > > > > separate
> > > > > > > project that I and others could contribute to?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > -Lyndon-
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 2/9/07, Brian Lyons < blyons@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >  hiho,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The Scrum Process content authored and contributed by Claude
> Aubry
> > > > of
> > > > > > > > Aubry Conseil has gone through the Eclipse contribution
> process
> > > > and
> > > > > > has been
> > > > > > > > accepted.  This is an exciting thing, a third open source
> agile
> > > > > > process
> > > > > > > > available through EPF: OpenUP, XP, and now Scrum.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > As an important first, this is the first process defined in a
> > > > language
> > > > > > > > other than English.  Claude's Scrum process content is in
> French.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Within a week, it will be available from the EPF website.  For
> now
> > > > you
> > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > see the content under Claude's professional site here
> > > > > > > > http://www.aubryconseil.com/scrum.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
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