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Re: [epf-dev] Agenda for February F2F
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Hi Per
Agenda looks good. I would like to have an additional item in the Solutions Development track: "Review relationship between architecture and development."
I'd be happy with a breakout.
Thanks
Mark
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From: Per Kroll [pkroll@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 28/01/2007 19:12
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Subject: [epf-dev] Agenda for February F2F
Hi,
I consolidated all suggestions for agenda
items in the attached, and added info from Chris on attendance, etc.
This meeting has a promis to be one
of the most well-attended of our meetings so far. I would also like to
make it the most productive by having somebody to lead and prepare in advance
each topic so we have a succinct articulation of the
a) Problem at hand
b) Dicussions so far
c) Alternatives to choose from
I would also like us to have some prep
meetings before the F2F. I do not want to start every discussion from the
beginning, but rather e.g. assume that people are familar with what has
been done so far in each domain.
We will also need to divide into groups,
and have each group solve some of the problems and report back. Otherwise,
we will not be able to handle all issues.
I suggest that as a next step, you all
review the agenda, and add things missing. Please offer to lead (and prepapre
for) a discussion. I suggested some names on several of the issues, but
feel free to volunteer for anything you are passionate about.
Please also indicate if there are topics
you are more or less interested in discussing. I will later in the week
propose some further refinements, and potentially breakouts, etc.,
Cheers
Per Kroll
STSM, Manager Methods: RUP / RMC
Project Lead: Eclipse Process Framework
Rational Software, IBM Corp
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"Scott W. Ambler"
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I would add:
1. Resolve the relationship between Test , acceptance tests within
Requirements, and developer tests within Implementation
2. Confirm the overall vision of OpenUP within the team. I suspect
that
we've strayed a bit.
3. Discuss status of all plug-in work (agile data techniques, agile
modeling, scrum, ....).
- Scott
On Sat, January 27, 2007 7:23 am, Ana Valente Pereira said:
> And also:
>
> * brainstorming the OpenUP lifecycle diagram ( 171152)
> <https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=171152>
> * review what goes into OpenUP basic deployment ...(167904 and 140074)
> ... and where does it fit on the lifecycle
>
> Ana
>
> Jim Ruehlin wrote:
>
>>Hello all,
>>
>>
>>
>>I don't know if there's an agenda yet for the February EPF F2F,
so here
>>are a few topic recommendations:
>>
>>
>>
>>*
Redefining the architectural approach in OpenUP
>>(https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=165258). We've been
>>having some small-group discussions about this and it would be
useful to
>>report on progress so far. There are still issues to be resolved
so this
>>may be a good opportunity for a breakout.
>>*
Redefining the relationship between design and implementation
>>(https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=168725). Brian and
I have
>>had a couple of informal discussions but there's still a lot to
do in
>>defining this. It may be useful to discuss the intent of this issue
in
>>the main meeting, and have a breakout to make further progress.
It may
>>also be useful to have a joint breakout with the architecture and
>>design/implementation groups to discuss interlocked issues.
>>*
Simplify the explanation and description of use cases
>>(https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=168275). The
problem is
>>that use cases require a learning curve that many developers,
>>particularly in small teams, are not willing to dedicate themselves
to.
>>User stories try to address this issue, but they can be ambiguous,
and
>>they can define solutions rather than requirements. Can we come
up with
>>a simpler way of doing use cases, and what would be the cost of
doing
>>so? Should we move to user stories instead, or leave things as
is?
>>
>>
>>
>>- Jim
>>
>>
>>
>>____________________
>>
>>Jim Ruehlin, IBM Rational
>>
>>RUP Content Developer
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>>Eclipse Process Framework (EPF) Committer www.eclipse.org/epf
>>
>>email: jruehlin@xxxxxxxxxx
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>>phone: 760.505.3232
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>>fax: 949.369.0720
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>>
>>
>>
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