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RE: [epf-dev] Re-architecting OpenUP Telecon Tuesday August 22nd

I'll try to see if I can participate. However, I'll be in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan camping, so I can't speak to the cell phone reception and general mayhem at-large. If I can't make it, I guess the biggest point I have (irrespective of the graphic) is that we should represent collaboration pretty clearly. I think it would be ironic if we claim that OpenUP is collaborative, but with little evidence of such collaboration in the actual process model. So, I propose that our capability patterns not be discipline-focused (which doesn't represent collaboration with other roles very well), but instead be collaboration-focused. That is, they should include at least one role (and appriopriate tasks) from at least two of the domains (management, user, development). In the four-circle graphic (with the product at the center), these proposed capability patterns are represented on the arrows between the domains. Then I suggest that we represent complete team-focused collaboration (which is also product-focused) as configurations of these capability patterns in each of the four phases (represented by their intent vs. their actual names in the product circle).
 
I believe in the current OpenUP method content, each domain is reasonably decoupled from another (as it relates to interdependencies between tasks and work products), with the exception of key work products such as work item list and others. In the collaboration approach I described, there would be pretty high coupling in the inter-domain capability patterns. So, the consequences of this would be if some one wanted to replace a domain, we would place pretty few constraints on what they replaced it with (based on the shared work products). However, they would need to redefine the capability patterns that represented collaboration with the other two domains. This does not trouble me, however. Basically the capability patterns are method content configured into process, so if someone replaces a big chunk of OpenUP method content (like an entire domain), it seems only natural that they would need to redefine the collaboration that the replaced domain has with the other two pre-existing domains (i.e. redefine part of the existing process, but not redefine the existing method content).
 
Have a great week!
 
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OK, I found them in bugzilla entry
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=152354

Cheers

Per Kroll
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Hi,


I can attend.

Brian, which slides are you referring to? I see a Word document from 7/24 with one graphic showing a Venn diagram. Is there more than that graphic?


Also, was there a discussion in DC about a potential 4th pie, suggested by Scott, dealing with Deployment? My gut feeling is that it is a good idea, but we do not have much on deployment today. It could serve as better to wait a little before adding it, so we do not have a pie advertising our big hole.. :)
Also, before taking a clear stand on whether that pie makes sense, I would like to see the underlying process model to ensure that it is reasonably well decouplde from the other "pies"..



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hiho,

 
I’ll be there.  

 
Can we also ensure that Chris Armstrong is on the call?  During the face-to-face I was enamored with all the thought that went into the graphics he created, but I want to make sure we have a unified perspective and that the Venn/evil-eye ideas synch with the pie ideas.

 
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Good morning everyone.

 
During this morning’s General and Overarching issues telecon we decided that we need a telecon to discuss the issues raised by bugzilla issue

152354 12:17:11 maj P3 All NEW EPF Content 1.0 --- Re-architecting and Re-positioning OpenUP


 
This call is scheduled for Tuesday August 22nd at 8:00am PDT.  Please refer to the calendar for call details.

 
This call may have to be re-scheduled if Per Kroll is not available.

 
Best regards,

Steve
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