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RE: [epf-dev] How to access the OpenUP Wiki
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Good job. I think you can install
the patch any time as there is currently not much traffic on the site anyway
:-(
Yes, being able to add the collapsible
sections just in html mode is enough (for me at least).
Thanks and best regards,
Peter Haumer.
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Rational Method Composer | Eclipse Process Framework
Rational Software | IBM Software Group
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Thanks for this feedback Peter.
Some of the issues you stumbled
onto result from the way _javascript_ is used in in the published website
with RMC or EPF and the way browser-based HTML editors work. These editors
use _javascript_ as well and editing text that is running _javascript_ using
_javascript_ causes instability. They way that the HTML editor tries to deal
with these issues is by stripping the stuff that will run when the page
loads.
An example is the onload event
of the body element:
_onload_="createSectionLinks('div',
'sectionHeading', './../../../images/'); createStepLinks('div', 'stepHeading');
This code is removed from the
page before loading into the edit area in IE. I noticed that for some reason
with FireFox this code is not removed and that causes empty pages. I have
a patch that solves this, code was added to remove conflicting _javascript_
before it is loaded by the HTML editor component. Problably also a better
approach as these HTML editors do not know how OpenUP pages are constructed,
what should be removed, what not.
The fact that the page cannot
run _javascript_ in edit mode also explains that in edit mode sections are
not collapsible. These sections are made collapsible in a nice transparent
way using _javascript_ and CSS but in edit mode this functionality cannot
be made available.
I think with this patch I can
also bring more advanced features in HTML edit mode without causing instability.
I’m not sure if it will offer good indentation but to make it even easier
the new patch uses HTML tidy so that on save and checkin indentation is
taken care of. Maybe it will offer preview functionality as well, now the
only way to preview is to save changes, but this is not really a preview
as it only allows to rollback all changes with undo checkout.
Switching between HTML and
RTE mode is taken care of as well with the new patch as this functionality
was disabled because of the _javascript_ issues.
Compare HTML changes and not
only text changes is part of the new patch release as well. The patch solves
the version count problem as well.
I propose to install this patch
when we clean-up the Wiki.
Best Regards,
Onno
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Subject: Re: [epf-dev] How to access the OpenUP Wiki
I just spent an hour with the Wiki and I have a really good impression
using it. I worked very intuitively and I was able to very quickly
add comments, modify and create pages. I added new check items to
a checklist in the html view by adding special div tags that made our scripts
recognize collapsible sections. This worked very well and efficient
although the HTML editor view is too plain and needs more features. I
created a new page and submitted comments. The review features that show
me which pages have changed as well as all the submitted comments seem
be really all we need for harvesting plus the ability to compare any version
against any other version of a page. Firefox still not seem to work
well with the rich text editor, but using internet explorer it worked much
better (IE Tab for Firefox also did not always work, e.g. opening the Link
Properties did not work). Here a list of some minor issues I found
as well as the questions and feedback:
1. Select
and replace in RTEs does not work
2. Editing
a checklist page in Firefox brings up an empty page, i.e. it does not retrieve
the existing html, but seems to create a fresh new page. Work fine with
IE.
3. Editor
does not show collapsible sections (e.g. check lists): Adding text might
place it in the wrong collapsible section. However can be worked
around in html view. Was able to successfully add sections by using DIVs
and our classes.
4. Cancelling
a Save Local in editor throws a script error.
5. How
do I enter <tab>s in the html editor? How do I indent the html?
6. How
do I get back from html mode to RTE mode? Pressing HTML button again did
not do anything. Any way to preview your html without checking in?
7. Compare
with previous version does not show pure html changes
8. What
does Version column mean in the User List: It does not increase count for
creating new versions of existing pages, only new versions on new pages.
9. How
can I create links to other pages (not html view) by selecting them? Open/Save
dialog in Link Properties did not display anything. Would have expected
it lists all the html pages of the site in the published folder structure.
Pasting a link worked fine.
10. What
is the strategy around new pages: where will they be stored and presented
to the rest of the users?
11. Loading
of pages often does not retrieve the latest version, but an old version
from the browser cache
12. Sometimes
when you click on a link in the hovering tool bar (e.g. show history),
it does not open the (history) page in a new window, but inside (!) the
tool bar
Thanks and best regards,
Peter Haumer.
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Hello.
This is just a quick reminder for the meeting next Monday and the preparation
we hope you put into it.
I saw that quite a few new users have signed up to the Wiki, which is excellent,
but we are hoping to see a few more names listed there. Also we would
like to encourage you to start the discussion about it already on this
email list. In other words, if you already have feedback, please
post it to epf-dev. We are hoping that such a discussion will make
more people curious and try it out.
Thanks and best regards,
Peter Haumer.
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PETER HAUMER, Dr. rer. nat.
Rational Method Composer | Eclipse Process Framework
Rational Software | IBM Software Group
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Hello.
Thanks to everyone joining the conference call today and especially thank
you Onno for walking us through the Wiki capabilities and setting up the
server.
For everyone else: The Wiki server is now available for you to 'play and
learn'. Find below the links to the recordings of today's training
session on how to use it as well as the overview presentation from the
13th. You can directly access the Wiki at this address: http://lcmglab.xs4all.nl
using MS Internet Explorer. (The 'good' browser is not supported,
yet.) You need to sign-up for an account. You will receive an email
with a link to confirm the account creation and then you are ready to go.
Go to this page http://lcmglab.xs4all.nl/rupwiki/info to find additional
instructions if you need more details after reviewing the raindance recording.
Feel free to 'mess around' as much as you want in the current Wiki
as the current stage is for playing and learning only. We will upload
a fresh new version when the experiment starts.
We would like to propose the following plan on how to proceed:
- EPF Committer and contributor familiarize
themselves with the Wiki technology by signing up and playing until the
end of next week.
- We schedule a call in which people discuss
their experience with the technology and ask questions (to Onno :-).
- In the same call we define a process on how
to use the Wiki with the public, how to harvest feedback, assign responsibilities
(e.g. discipline owners harvest from their disciplines), when and how generate
Bugzilla's, when to upload new versions of OpenUP to the Wiki, etc.
- We write up an introduction page for the
public wiki experiment explaining the scope and communicating the usage
model to be posted in the Wiki as well as EPF homepage.
- We clean-up the Wiki, upload the latest OpenUP
version, and announce the Wiki experiment to the public
Let me know what you think about this plan. I suggest to do the mentioned
follow-up meeting on
Monday, August 7th, 8am PT, 11am ET, 4pm UK, 5pm Europe
Dial-up information:
1. Go to http://cpc.on.raindance.com
2. Click on "Join Unscheduled Meeting"
on the left
3. Enter your details and the following conference
ID: 2816556. Select the "Full Version" radio button, click "Join
now"
4. Raindance will check your system and might
prompt you to install a few files. It will then bring up the conference
tool.
5. Dial the following phone number: USA 800-528-2856,
International: 770-325-4737
6. When asked, enter the same conference ID
on the phone as well: 2816556
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Access the recording of Today's Training Session:
RECORDED CONFERENCE SUMMARY
Title:
| 0727-Wiki_Training_Session
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Date:
| 07/27/2006
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Start Time:
| 07:55 AM US/Pacific
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Duration:
| 57 minutes
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Presenter:
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RECORDED CONFERENCE DESCRIPTION
Onno teaching us how to set-up the Wiki, upload OpenUP, review changes
and comments, harvest the changes, and upload a new version of OpenUP.
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Date:
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Onno van der Straaten presents Wiki technology developed by Logica CMG
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Thanks and best regards,
Peter Haumer.
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PETER HAUMER, Dr. rer. nat.
Rational Method Composer | Eclipse Process Framework
Rational Software | IBM Software Group
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