Thanks for this feedback Peter.
Some of the issues you stumbled onto
result from the way _javascript_ is used in in the published website with RMC or
EPF and the way browser-based HTML editors work. These editors use _javascript_
as well and editing text that is running _javascript_ using _javascript_ causes instability.
They way that the HTML editor tries to deal with these issues is by stripping
the stuff that will run when the page loads.
An example is the onload event of the body
element:
_onload_="createSectionLinks('div',
'sectionHeading', './../../../images/'); createStepLinks('div', 'stepHeading');
This code is removed from the page before
loading into the edit area in IE. I noticed that for some reason with FireFox
this code is not removed and that causes empty pages. I have a patch that
solves this, code was added to remove conflicting _javascript_ before it is
loaded by the HTML editor component. Problably also a better approach as these
HTML editors do not know how OpenUP pages are constructed, what should be
removed, what not.
The fact that the page cannot run
_javascript_ in edit mode also explains that in edit mode sections are not
collapsible. These sections are made collapsible in a nice transparent way
using _javascript_ and CSS but in edit mode this functionality cannot be made
available.
I think with this patch I can also bring
more advanced features in HTML edit mode without causing instability. I’m
not sure if it will offer good indentation but to make it even easier the new
patch uses HTML tidy so that on save and checkin indentation is taken care of. Maybe
it will offer preview functionality as well, now the only way to preview is to
save changes, but this is not really a preview as it only allows to rollback all
changes with undo checkout.
Switching between HTML and RTE mode is
taken care of as well with the new patch as this functionality was disabled
because of the _javascript_ issues.
Compare HTML changes and not only text
changes is part of the new patch release as well. The patch solves the version
count problem as well.
I propose to install this patch when we
clean-up the Wiki.
Best Regards,
Onno
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I just spent an hour with the Wiki and I have a really good impression
using it. I worked very intuitively and I was able to very quickly add
comments, modify and create pages. I added new check items to a checklist
in the html view by adding special div tags that made our scripts recognize
collapsible sections. This worked very well and efficient although the
HTML editor view is too plain and needs more features. I created a new
page and submitted comments. The review features that show me which pages have
changed as well as all the submitted comments seem be really all we need for
harvesting plus the ability to compare any version against any other version of
a page. Firefox still not seem to work well with the rich text editor,
but using internet explorer it worked much better (IE Tab for Firefox also did
not always work, e.g. opening the Link Properties did not work). Here a
list of some minor issues I found as well as the questions and feedback:
- Select and replace in RTEs does not work
- Editing a checklist page in Firefox brings up an
empty page, i.e. it does not retrieve the existing html, but seems to
create a fresh new page. Work fine with IE.
- Editor does not show collapsible sections (e.g.
check lists): Adding text might place it in the wrong collapsible section.
However can be worked around in html view. Was able to successfully
add sections by using DIVs and our classes.
- Cancelling a Save Local in editor throws a
script error.
- How do I enter <tab>s in the html editor?
How do I indent the html?
- How do I get back from html mode to RTE mode?
Pressing HTML button again did not do anything. Any way to preview
your html without checking in?
- Compare with previous version does not show pure
html changes
- What does Version column mean in the User List:
It does not increase count for creating new versions of existing pages,
only new versions on new pages.
- How can I create links to other pages (not html
view) by selecting them? Open/Save dialog in Link Properties did not display
anything. Would have expected it lists all the html pages of the
site in the published folder structure. Pasting a link worked fine.
- What is the strategy around new pages: where
will they be stored and presented to the rest of the users?
- Loading of pages often does not retrieve the
latest version, but an old version from the browser cache
- Sometimes when you click on a link in the
hovering tool bar (e.g. show history), it does not open the (history) page
in a new window, but inside (!) the tool bar
Thanks and best regards,
Peter Haumer.
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Hello.
This is just a quick reminder for the meeting next Monday and the preparation
we hope you put into it.
I saw that quite a few new users have signed up to the Wiki, which is
excellent, but we are hoping to see a few more names listed there. Also
we would like to encourage you to start the discussion about it already on this
email list. In other words, if you already have feedback, please post it
to epf-dev. We are hoping that such a discussion will make more people
curious and try it out.
Thanks and best regards,
Peter Haumer.
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Hello.
Thanks to everyone joining the conference call today and especially thank you Onno
for walking us through the Wiki capabilities and setting up the server.
For everyone else: The Wiki server is now available for you to 'play and
learn'. Find below the links to the recordings of today's training
session on how to use it as well as the overview presentation from the 13th.
You can directly access the Wiki at this address:
http://lcmglab.xs4all.nl using MS Internet Explorer. (The 'good' browser
is not supported, yet.) You need to sign-up for an account. You will receive
an email with a link to confirm the account creation and then you are ready to
go. Go to this page http://lcmglab.xs4all.nl/rupwiki/info to find
additional instructions if you need more details after reviewing the raindance
recording. Feel free to 'mess around' as much as you want in the current
Wiki as the current stage is for playing and learning only. We will
upload a fresh new version when the experiment starts.
We would like to propose the following plan on how to proceed:
- EPF Committer and contributor familiarize
themselves with the Wiki technology by signing up and playing until the
end of next week.
- We schedule a call in which people discuss their
experience with the technology and ask questions (to Onno :-).
- In the same call we define a process on how to
use the Wiki with the public, how to harvest feedback, assign
responsibilities (e.g. discipline owners harvest from their disciplines),
when and how generate Bugzilla's, when to upload new versions of OpenUP to
the Wiki, etc.
- We write up an introduction page for the public
wiki experiment explaining the scope and communicating the usage model to
be posted in the Wiki as well as EPF homepage.
- We clean-up the Wiki, upload the latest OpenUP
version, and announce the Wiki experiment to the public
Let me know what you think about this plan. I suggest to do the mentioned
follow-up meeting on
Monday, August 7th, 8am PT, 11am ET, 4pm UK, 5pm Europe
Dial-up information:
1. Go to http://cpc.on.raindance.com
2. Click on "Join Unscheduled Meeting" on
the left
3. Enter your details and the following conference
ID: 2816556. Select the "Full Version" radio button, click "Join
now"
4. Raindance will check your system and might prompt
you to install a few files. It will then bring up the conference tool.
5. Dial the following phone number: USA
800-528-2856, International: 770-325-4737
6. When asked, enter the same conference ID on the
phone as well: 2816556
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Access the recording of Today's Training Session:
RECORDED CONFERENCE SUMMARY
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0727-Wiki_Training_Session
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Date:
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07/27/2006
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57 minutes
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RECORDED CONFERENCE DESCRIPTION
Onno teaching us how to set-up the Wiki, upload OpenUP, review changes and
comments, harvest the changes, and upload a new version of OpenUP.
ACCESS THE RECORDING
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RECORDED CONFERENCE DESCRIPTION
Onno van der Straaten presents Wiki technology
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Thanks and best regards,
Peter Haumer.
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