epf-dev http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/epf-dev/maillist.html epf-dev en-us Fri, 11 May 2012 17:40:38 GMT Fri, 11 May 2012 17:40:38 GMT http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss MHonArc RSS 2.0 RCFile webmaster@eclipse.org (Webmaster) webmaster@eclipse.org (Webmaster) epf-dev http://www.eclipse.org/eclipse.org-common/themes/Phoenix/images/eclipse_home_header.jpg http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/epf-dev/maillist.html [epf-dev] Minutes from EPF meeting 5/10/2012 http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/epf-dev/msg03917.html Attendees: Pierre Duset - Medavie Blue Cross Tara McGonagall - Computer Sciences Corp Ricardo Balduino Bruce MacIsaac Gunter Seidel Colin O'Neill Minutes: 1. Bruce presented the recent changes to OpenUP proposed for this upcoming release. Specifically: a. ... Attendees:

Pierre Duset - Medavie Blue Cross
Tara McGonagall - Computer Sciences Corp
Ricardo Balduino
Bruce MacIsaac
Gunter Seidel
Colin O'Neill

Minutes:

1. Bruce presented the recent changes to OpenUP proposed for this upcoming release.
Specifically:
a.  two new practices (Documentation and Training , Production Release) donated by Colin O'Neill.
b. incorporation of these practices into the OpenUP delivery process.  Also incorporated the practice Project Process Tailoring
into the OpenUP delivery process.
c. Structuring of OpenUP roles into sets.
d. Addition of Deployment discipline/domain/roleset.

2. Reviewed the changes from Colin's original donation.  Colin had no concerns with the changes.

3. Discussed whether the addition complicated OpenUP too much.  There were no objections.

4. Bruce reviewed the new Wiki and EPF experience reports pages available here:
http://wiki.eclipse.org/EPF
and invited any and all to contribute their experiences via the Wiki.

5. We need presenters for upcoming Webinars - so please step forward and show us what you are doing with EPF
or any other process topic.


Bruce MacIsaac
EPF Co-lead
]]> Fri, 11 May 2012 17:38:45 GMT http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/epf-dev/msg03917.html bmacisaa@xxxxxxx (Bruce Macisaac) Re: [epf-dev] Git migration ? http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/epf-dev/msg03916.html
I made some inquiries okt 2010 about moving away from CVS see https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=328234. The bugzilla is still open.

Should we put this to a vote? We can use this bugzilla to collect the votes from the committer members (tool and content developers).

The migration is a automated process I think so that helps. Of course we will need to update manuals, guidelines on EPF site, I am willing to contribute to that.

Best Regards,
Onno




On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Cristiano Gavião <cvgaviao@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I've read that all Eclipse projects must move to git until December 21/2012. But I couldn't find any ticket for this in EPF's bugzilla .

So, when EPF team will take care of this subject?

regards,

Cristiano

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]]> Fri, 11 May 2012 06:11:39 GMT http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/epf-dev/msg03916.html onno.van.der.straaten@xxxxxxx (Onno van der Straaten) [epf-dev] Fwd: Git migration ? http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/epf-dev/msg03915.html forgot to add this link: http://www.eclipse.org/projects/scmcountdown.php -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Git migration ? Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 09:23:09 -0300 From: Cristiano Gavi&atilde;o &lt;cvgaviao@xxxxxxxxx&gt; To: Eclipse Process Framework Project D... forgot to add this link:

http://www.eclipse.org/projects/scmcountdown.php

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Git migration ?
Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 09:23:09 -0300
From: Cristiano Gavião <cvgaviao@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Eclipse Process Framework Project Developers List <epf-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>


I've read that all Eclipse projects must move to git until December 21/2012. But I couldn't find any ticket for this in EPF's bugzilla .

So, when EPF team will take care of this subject?

regards,

Cristiano

]]> Thu, 10 May 2012 12:28:29 GMT http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/epf-dev/msg03915.html cvgaviao@xxxxxxx (Cristiano Gavião) [epf-dev] Git migration ? http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/epf-dev/msg03914.html I've read that all Eclipse projects must move to git until December 21/2012. But I couldn't find any ticket for this in EPF's bugzilla . So, when EPF team will take care of this subject? regards, Cristiano I've read that all Eclipse projects must move to git until December 21/2012. But I couldn't find any ticket for this in EPF's bugzilla .

So, when EPF team will take care of this subject?

regards,

Cristiano
]]> Thu, 10 May 2012 12:23:13 GMT http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/epf-dev/msg03914.html cvgaviao@xxxxxxx (Cristiano Gavião) Re: [epf-dev] EPF meeting reminder - new version of OpenUP http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/epf-dev/msg03913.html In this Thursday's meeting I will be presenting new practices contributed by Colin O'Neill, newly incorporated into OpenUP. 1. Documentation and Training 2. Production Release. I have incorporated these practices into the OpenUP delivery process. I have a... In this Thursday's meeting I will be presenting new practices contributed by Colin O'Neill, newly incorporated into OpenUP.

1. Documentation and Training
2. Production Release.

I have incorporated these practices into the OpenUP delivery process.  I have also incorporated the practice Project Process Tailoring
into the OpenUP delivery process.

In doing this, I have made the following changes to OpenUP:
1. Revised the capability patterns and delivery process to include
the practices.
2. Deleted redundant copy of activity "Identify and Refine Requirements"
3. Updated "planned flags" in OpenUP delivery process.
4. Structured the roles into sets, and changed the OpenUP view to display role sets.

Still to be done is updating the All EPF Practices configuration and checking these changes into CVS.

You can get the latest version of the published site here.
http://wiki.eclipse.org/EPF/DeploymentPractices

I will post the next version to EPF Wiki, replacing the version of OpenUP that is there - if everyone agrees that is fine.


Colin - I also made the following changes compared with your submission:

1. Renamed elements to conform with authoring conventions.

2. I had outlining deployment plan in Elaboration, developing support materials in construction, and release in transition - rather than
do all this in transition.

3. Redid the assign plug-ins (plug-in dependencies were mixed up).

4. Removed "development team member"
I used developer (which you contributed to anyways).  I deleted your text.  This may be worth discussing.

5. Used Deployment standard categories in place of the new disciplines you introduced.

Let me know if you have any concerns.

Issues:

1. This makes openup quite a bit bigger (more roles, work products, etc..  Any concerns with that?

2. Deployment engineer plans deployment.  Should we have a deployment manager?

3. Other?



Bruce MacIsaac
EPF Project Co-Lead
bmacisaa@xxxxxxxxxx
408-250-3037 (cell)



From:        Ricardo Balduino/Cupertino/IBM@IBMUS
To:        epf-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
Date:        05/08/2012 01:18 PM
Subject:        [epf-dev] EPF meeting reminder
Sent by:        epf-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx



Hi everyone,

This is a reminder of our regular call this Thursday, 5/10, 8:00AM PDT.
The proposed agenda is as follows:

1. Finalize items for release on Jun 1
 a. Practices content contributed by Colin O'Neil
 b. Other Bugzilla items
2. Candidate webinars

Any other items?
As a reminder, this is the last meeting before the EPF 1.5.1.4 release in June.

Meeting details: https://www.google.com/calendar/event?eid=YzY3cml1ZzhuMWZiZmp1bDFoa2FwZjFtc3NfMjAxMjA1MTBUMTUwMDAwWiBhamhvdTlpMTd0dWo2M25tNml1N3Fwbm90OEBn&ctz=America/Los_Angeles&gsessionid=OK

Thanks!

Ricardo Balduino
EPF Co-lead

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]]> Thu, 10 May 2012 00:25:03 GMT http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/epf-dev/msg03913.html bmacisaa@xxxxxxx (Bruce Macisaac) [epf-dev] EPF meeting reminder http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/epf-dev/msg03912.html Hi everyone, This is a reminder of our regular call this Thursday, 5/10, 8:00AM PDT. The proposed agenda is as follows: 1. Finalize items for release on Jun 1 a. Practices content contributed by Colin O'Neil b. Other Bugzilla items 2. Candidate webinar... Hi everyone,

This is a reminder of our regular call this Thursday, 5/10, 8:00AM PDT.
The proposed agenda is as follows:

1. Finalize items for release on Jun 1
  a. Practices content contributed by Colin O'Neil
  b. Other Bugzilla items
2. Candidate webinars

Any other items?
As a reminder, this is the last meeting before the EPF 1.5.1.4 release in June.

Meeting details: https://www.google.com/calendar/event?eid=YzY3cml1ZzhuMWZiZmp1bDFoa2FwZjFtc3NfMjAxMjA1MTBUMTUwMDAwWiBhamhvdTlpMTd0dWo2M25tNml1N3Fwbm90OEBn&ctz=America/Los_Angeles&gsessionid=OK

Thanks!

Ricardo Balduino
EPF Co-lead

]]> Tue, 08 May 2012 20:12:47 GMT http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/epf-dev/msg03912.html balduino@xxxxxxx (Ricardo Balduino) Re: [epf-dev] Apache version http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/epf-dev/msg03911.html
  • MySQL client and server
  • Apache
  • apache2-prefork-dev libapr1-dev libaprutil1-dev
  • Tidy
  • Unzip

Should be straightforward? I'm not sure, I have never deployed on RedHat.

Onno



On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Tara McGarrigle <tmcgarrigle@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi again,
My company is considering moving to Linux for hosting the EPFWIki because of the outdated software versions under Windows but they support RedHat not Ubunto.  Is the EPFWIki supported on RedHat and are the installation instructions the same as Ubunto?

Thanks,
Tara
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Hi Onno,
Thank you for the reply.  I am limited to using Windows at this time so I'd
be very interested in your results with the IIS/Windows setup.

Thanks,
Tara
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To:                 Eclipse Process Framework Project Developers List
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Date:                 04/27/2012 02:27 AM
Subject:                 Re: [epf-dev] Apache version
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Hi Tara,
If you can please use Ubuntu/Linux, not Windows! This is especially true
for production environments. I'm willing to help you with all issues and
questions but if you are on Windows I'm afraid I won't be able to help very
effectively. See the guide
http://wiki.eclipse.org/EPF_Wiki_Installation_Guide_for_Ubuntu

Next month I will attempt to setup a production environment with MS Windows
and IIS upon request of a customer. I have given 'no' guarantees it will
work but if it does, I will share a how-to.
Cheers,
Onno

On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Tara McGarrigle <tmcgarrigle@xxxxxxx>
wrote:

 Hi All,
 Is a newer version of Apache or InstantRails available for the EPF Wiki
 on
 Windows http://wiki.eclipse.org/EPF_Wiki_Installation_Guide?  The Apache
 version packaged with InstantRails2.0 is several years old and
 vulnerabilities are coming up on foundstone scans.

 Thanks,
 Tara
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]]> Thu, 03 May 2012 19:51:51 GMT http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/epf-dev/msg03911.html onno.van.der.straaten@xxxxxxx (Onno van der Straaten) Re: [epf-dev] Apache version http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/epf-dev/msg03910.html Hi All, Is a newer version of Apache or InstantRails available for the EPF Wiki on Windows http://wiki.eclipse.org/EPF_Wiki_Installation_Guide? The Apache version packaged with InstantRails2.0 is several years old and nbsp;vulnerabilities are coming... Hi again,
My company is considering moving to Linux for hosting the EPFWIki because of the outdated software versions under Windows but they support RedHat not Ubunto.  Is the EPFWIki supported on RedHat and are the installation instructions the same as Ubunto?

Thanks,
Tara
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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To:        Eclipse Process Framework Project Developers List <epf-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc:        epf-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
Date:        04/27/2012 04:09 PM
Subject:        Re: [epf-dev] Apache version
Sent by:        epf-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx



Hi Onno,
Thank you for the reply.  I am limited to using Windows at this time so I'd
be very interested in your results with the IIS/Windows setup.

Thanks,
Tara
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To:                 Eclipse Process Framework Project Developers List
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Date:                 04/27/2012 02:27 AM
Subject:                 Re: [epf-dev] Apache version
Sent by:                 epf-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx



Hi Tara,
If you can please use Ubuntu/Linux, not Windows! This is especially true
for production environments. I'm willing to help you with all issues and
questions but if you are on Windows I'm afraid I won't be able to help very
effectively. See the guide
http://wiki.eclipse.org/EPF_Wiki_Installation_Guide_for_Ubuntu

Next month I will attempt to setup a production environment with MS Windows
and IIS upon request of a customer. I have given 'no' guarantees it will
work but if it does, I will share a how-to.
Cheers,
Onno

On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Tara McGarrigle <tmcgarrigle@xxxxxxx>
wrote:

 Hi All,
 Is a newer version of Apache or InstantRails available for the EPF Wiki
 on
 Windows http://wiki.eclipse.org/EPF_Wiki_Installation_Guide?  The Apache
 version packaged with InstantRails2.0 is several years old and
 vulnerabilities are coming up on foundstone scans.

 Thanks,
 Tara
 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


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]]> Thu, 03 May 2012 13:58:31 GMT http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/epf-dev/msg03910.html tmcgarrigle@xxxxxxx (Tara McGarrigle) Re: [epf-dev] Apache version http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/epf-dev/msg03909.html Hi All, Is a newer version of Apache or InstantRails available for the EPF Wiki on Windows http://wiki.eclipse.org/EPF_Wiki_Installation_Guide? &#xA0;The Apache version packaged with InstantRails2.0 is several years old and vulnerabilities are coming up on fou... Hi Onno, Thank you for the reply. I am limited to using Windows at this time so I'd be very interested in your results with the IIS/Windows setup. Thanks, Tara ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ TARA MCGARRIGLE CSC Account - Applications Services (CA-AS) CSC Managed Services Sector I +1.781.202.7220 I tmcgarrigle@xxxxxxx I www.csc.com This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in delivery. NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to bind CSC to any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such purpose. From: Onno van der Straaten <onno.van.der.straaten@xxxxxxxxx> To: Eclipse Process Framework Project Developers List <epf-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx> Date: 04/27/2012 02:27 AM Subject: Re: [epf-dev] Apache version Sent by: epf-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx Hi Tara, If you can please use Ubuntu/Linux, not Windows! This is especially true for production environments. I'm willing to help you with all issues and questions but if you are on Windows I'm afraid I won't be able to help very effectively. See the guide http://wiki.eclipse.org/EPF_Wiki_Installation_Guide_for_Ubuntu Next month I will attempt to setup a production environment with MS Windows and IIS upon request of a customer. I have given 'no' guarantees it will work but if it does, I will share a how-to. Cheers, Onno On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Tara McGarrigle <tmcgarrigle@xxxxxxx> wrote: Hi All, Is a newer version of Apache or InstantRails available for the EPF Wiki on Windows http://wiki.eclipse.org/EPF_Wiki_Installation_Guide?  The Apache version packaged with InstantRails2.0 is several years old and vulnerabilities are coming up on foundstone scans. Thanks, Tara ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ TARA MCGARRIGLE CSC Account - Applications Services  (CA-AS) CSC Managed Services Sector   I  +1.781.202.7220   I  tmcgarrigle@xxxxxxx  I www.csc.com This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in delivery. NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to bind CSC to any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such purpose. _______________________________________________ epf-dev mailing list epf-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/epf-dev _______________________________________________ epf-dev mailing list epf-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/epf-dev ]]> Fri, 27 Apr 2012 20:09:21 GMT http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/epf-dev/msg03909.html tmcgarrigle@xxxxxxx (Tara McGarrigle) Re: [epf-dev] Apache version http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/epf-dev/msg03908.html Hi Tara,
If you can please use Ubuntu/Linux, not Windows! This is especially true for production environments. I'm willing to help you with all issues and questions but if you are on Windows I'm afraid I won't be able to help very effectively. See the guide http://wiki.eclipse.org/EPF_Wiki_Installation_Guide_for_Ubuntu

Next month I will attempt to setup a production environment with MS Windows and IIS upon request of a customer. I have given 'no' guarantees it will work but if it does, I will share a how-to.
Cheers,
Onno

On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Tara McGarrigle <tmcgarrigle@xxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi All,
Is a newer version of Apache or InstantRails available for the EPF Wiki on
Windows http://wiki.eclipse.org/EPF_Wiki_Installation_Guide?  The Apache
version packaged with InstantRails2.0 is several years old and
vulnerabilities are coming up on foundstone scans.

Thanks,
Tara
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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]]> Fri, 27 Apr 2012 06:27:41 GMT http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/epf-dev/msg03908.html onno.van.der.straaten@xxxxxxx (Onno van der Straaten)