| Hi, Ed,
Yes, Eclipse judges the health of its projects in a large degree by the amount of activity, both in the user community (e.g., downloads) and the committer/contributor community (e.g., bugzilla, CVS). The termination process is instituted specifically for this reason. Also, as I understand it, archived projects don't actually die ... they're just set aside until they can be revived when there is new interest in them (witness VE).
In any case, as I replied to Anthony, it is too early, yet, to consider termination. I am trying to stimulate the community to step up to rescue this component so that we don't have to take that route. Perhaps I could be doing that in some better way ...
Cheers,
Christian
On 17-Sep-08, at 2:24 AM, Ed Merks wrote: Christian, Like SDO, I see Query as having little real value to justify its existence. So like Query, I'm considering terminating the SDO component. Components that don't have a significant established user base and for which there is no interesting future don't really don't have a place at Eclipse. If there is really only one user, they can of course maintain the source themselves. Christian W. Damus wrote: Anthony,
I forgot to answer your other questions. I don't know about GMF, but Transaction build only requires the Query for the 3-in-1 feature that it publishes to the Ganymede/Galileo builds. The Transaction and Validation components have no dependencies, and can build without it.
cW
On 16-Sep-08, at 1:47 PM, Anthony Hunter wrote: Hi Christian,
We are getting more information for you, but IBM makes use of EMF Query in its products. So it cannot go away for Galileo. We would be fine with creating a 1.3 version that has no new content, but just confirms from a build and smoke test perspective that it still works and is at the high standard of quality as the other components in Galileo.
I am wondering why EMF Transaction and GMF have a build dependency on EMF Query for the last three years ? (I.e. EMF Query is listed on the dependencies on the download page).
Cheers...
Anthony
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[emf-dev] Status of the EMF Query Component |
Hi, all, The EMF project has had, since Callisto days, a Query component providing a Java API with an SQL-ish feel for structured searches in EObject data. Since its 1.0 release, this component has not added any new features except for keeping up with its dependencies: following EMF Core in adopting J2SE 5.0, and adopting new OCL APIs. It seems to me that this component never did show much "traction" from the user community and I have no plan to initiate any new work for the Galileo release. A summary of Bugzilla activity looks like this: - Raised/resolved since the Ganymede (1.2) release: 0 / 0
- Raised/resolved since the Europa (1.1) release: 9 / 9
- Raised/resolved since the Callisto (1.0) release: 11 / 12
- Raised/resolved since the initial commit: 11 / 10
Note that a significant number of these bugs were releng-type bugs tagged against the Query component but applying to common/replicated artifacts and processes across the EMF Query/Transaction/Validation components and also MDT OCL. So, my questions to the community are: - Do you use the EMF Query component?
- Are you interested in continuing to develop the EMF Query component?
- I am happy to help contributors to earn committer rights by working with them on their patches.
Your feed-back is very important to determining whether this component will have a 1.3 release in Galileo, whether it should just produce a maintenance release for Galileo, or whether it should proceed to a Termination Review. Thanks, Christian -- Christian W. Damus Senior Software Developer, Zeligsoft Inc. Component Lead, Eclipse MDT OCL and EMF-QTV E-mail: cdamus@xxxxxxxxxxxxx _______________________________________________
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