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Re: [eclipse.org-planning-council] Respin Request - Re: Heads-Up: [eclipse-pmc] [cross-project-issues-dev] Fw: Xtext is broken in Oxygen 1a

Which SimRel build is/was the correct one? Or: Is /staging/oxygen complete? I'm asking because one of them triggered an EPP build at [1], then another SimRel build triggered another update and a new EPP build, and currently another promoteToStaging build is running at [2].


[1] https://hudson.eclipse.org/packaging/job/oxygen.epp-tycho-build/
[2] https://hudson.eclipse.org/simrel/

Thanks,
Markus



On 9 October 2017 at 15:36, Frederic Gurr <frederic.gurr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Dani,

The timeline as described by Markus works for me.

Just to be sure, I am waiting for the following contributions in the
aggregation build, correct?:

* Platform/SDK contribution
* m2e fix               (already contributed with git commit 81a7eaa)

Anything else?

Regards,

Fred


On 09.10.2017 14:43, Markus Knauer wrote:
> Hi Dani,
>
> that is great to hear! If no one else would have given a +1, I would
> have sent one.
>
> The package build runs about 4+ hours as soon as the input is available
> from /staging/oxygen. Critical is (a) the time that is required to get
> the +1's from the package maintainers, and (b) distribute the final
> packages to the download mirrors. Let's assume that the SimRel
> aggregation build runs between noon EDT and 1pm EDT, followed by a
> successful package build until 5pm EDT, I could try to copy/rename the
> files to the download server late at my night (European timezone). If
> everything works out as planned, we'd still be in time for the release
> on Wednesday, but there is not much buffer included.
>
> The sooner we have something in /staging/oxygen, the better! I'm
> monitoring the mailing lists...
>
> Thanks,
> Markus
>
>
>
> On 9 October 2017 at 14:18, Daniel Megert <daniel_megert@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:daniel_megert@xxxxxx.com>> wrote:
>
>     So far no objections for a respin.
>
>     In the meantime we have produced an Eclipse Platform/SDK build with
>     all the fixes:
>     http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops4/M20171009-0410/
>     <http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops4/M20171009-0410/>.
>     Those affected, please test and report back.
>
>     Can we assume a +1 for the respin if no objections come in until
>     12:00 noon EDT?
>
>     Mickaël and Markus, what is the timeline to produce the final release?
>
>     Dani
>
>
>
>     From:        Martin Lippert <mlippert@xxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:mlippert@xxxxxxxxx>>
>     To:        Eclipse Planning Council private list
>     <eclipse.org-planning-council@eclipse.org
>     <mailto:eclipse.org-planning-council@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
>     Date:        08.10.2017 14:27
>     Subject:        Re: [eclipse.org-planning-council] Respin Request -
>     Re: Heads-Up: [eclipse-pmc] [cross-project-issues-dev] Fw: Xtext is
>     broken in Oxygen 1a
>     Sent by:        eclipse.org-planning-council-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:eclipse.org-planning-council-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>     +1
>
>     Cheers,
>     -Martin
>
>
>
>     > Am 07.10.2017 um 14:55 schrieb Daniel Megert
>     <daniel_megert@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:daniel_megert@xxxxxx.com>>:
>     >
>     > Dear Planning Council Members
>     >
>     > The Eclipse top-level PMC agreed that we should respin Oxygen 1a
>     RC2 to provide a fix for the broken Xtext code (see details below).
>     >
>     > The Eclipse top-level project hereby officially asks the Planning
>     Council to cast their vote on a respin.
>     >
>     > Please cast your vote asap. The fixes are ready on our side.
>     >
>     > Thanks!
>     > Dani
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > From:        Aleksandar Kurtakov <akurtako@xxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:akurtako@xxxxxxxxxx>>
>     > To:        Eclipse Planning Council private list
>     <eclipse.org-planning-council@eclipse.org
>     <mailto:eclipse.org-planning-council@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
>     > Date:        06.10.2017 18:15
>     > Subject:        Re: [eclipse.org-planning-council] Heads-Up:
>     [eclipse-pmc] [cross-project-issues-dev] Fw: Xtext is broken in
>     Oxygen 1a
>     > Sent by:        eclipse.org-planning-council-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:eclipse.org-planning-council-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 5:54 PM, Daniel Megert
>     <daniel_megert@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:daniel_megert@xxxxxx.com>> wrote:
>     > We might have to discuss a respin for Oxygen 1a. Still pending
>     Eclipse PMC decision.
>     >
>     > +1 for a respin with the 3 fixes in question.
>     >  
>     >
>     >
>     > Dani
>     >
>     > ----- Forwarded by Daniel Megert/Zurich/IBM on 06.10.2017 16:51 -----
>     >
>     > From:        Daniel Megert/Zurich/IBM
>     > To:        eclipse-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:eclipse-pmc@eclipse.org>
>     > Cc:        Cross project issues
>     <cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org
>     <mailto:cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>,
>     cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
>     eclipse-pmc-bounces@eclipse.org <mailto:eclipse-pmc-bounces@eclipse.org>
>     > Date:        06.10.2017 16:50
>     > Subject:        Re: [eclipse-pmc] [cross-project-issues-dev] Fw:
>     Xtext is broken in        Oxygen 1a
>     >
>     >
>     > Lars, Martin
>     >
>     > Can you also cast your vote?
>     >
>     > In addition to the two mentioned bugs we would also provide a fix for:
>     > Bug 525583: 'Nested' Eclipse Application Launch configuration
>     fails to launch on Java 9 and Eclipse 4.7.1a                
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > Dani
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > From:        "Mike Wilson" <Mike_Wilson@xxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:Mike_Wilson@xxxxxxxxxx>>
>     > To:        Cross project issues
>     <cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org
>     <mailto:cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
>     > Cc:        cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
>     "eclipse-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:eclipse-pmc@eclipse.org>"
>     <eclipse-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:eclipse-pmc@eclipse.org>>
>     > Date:        06.10.2017 15:56
>     > Subject:        Re: [eclipse-pmc] [cross-project-issues-dev] Fw:
>     Xtext is broken in        Oxygen 1a
>     > Sent by:        eclipse-pmc-bounces@eclipse.org
>     <mailto:eclipse-pmc-bounces@eclipse.org>
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > I agree with Alex's assessment of the perils of using internals.
>     Given the seriousness of this problem, I would suggest we do a
>     respin anyway, and would argue we should fix the internal signature
>     at the same time. In return, the XText team should commit to getting
>     off the use of that method asap, with our help to add missing
>     (actual) API as needed.
>     >
>     > McQ.
>     >
>     > "Daniel Megert" ---2017/10/06 08:42:19---In case of a respin we
>     would definitely include that fix. Dani
>     >
>     > From: "Daniel Megert" <daniel_megert@xxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:daniel_megert@xxxxxx.com>>
>     > To: Cross project issues <cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org
>     <mailto:cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
>     > Cc: cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
>     "eclipse-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:eclipse-pmc@eclipse.org>"
>     <eclipse-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:eclipse-pmc@eclipse.org>>
>     > Date: 2017/10/06 08:42
>     > Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Fw: Xtext is broken in
>     Oxygen 1a
>     > Sent by: cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > In case of a respin we would definitely include that fix.
>     >
>     > Dani
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > From: Fred Bricon <fbricon@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:fbricon@xxxxxxxxx>>
>     > To: Cross project issues <cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org
>     <mailto:cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
>     > Cc: "eclipse-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:eclipse-pmc@eclipse.org>"
>     <eclipse-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:eclipse-pmc@eclipse.org>>
>     > Date: 06.10.2017 14:30
>     > Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Fw: Xtext is broken in
>     Oxygen 1a
>     > Sent by: cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > While we're on the subject of respinning RC2, JDT has a critical
>     bug[1] that prevents any project with multiple output folders
>     (Maven, Gradle) from running any class (be it main or test) from the
>     IDE, with Java 9.
>     > A simple fix[2] was committed yesterday in master, I strongly
>     believe this should be backported to Oxygen.1a, given that, most
>     likely, all new greenfield Java 9 projects will use a build tool
>     affected by that bug.
>     >
>     > [1]
>     https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__bugs.eclipse.org_bugs_show-5Fbug.cgi-3FidR5382&d=DwIGaQ&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=1UITCR5rxUZHSFczvfaNFK4ymEbEiccRX7VKchpqz0Y&m=ehh0hf43JEqiCw-x1rainU3d6IrtsyDINsBf1Si97w8&s=Dyk6rVIvxyWM2sNDoy5z0IffwRNR0e4mfzbi9BzKDnE&e=
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>     > [2]
>     https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__git.eclipse.org_c_jdt_eclipse.jdt.debug.git_commit_-3Fidube8bb1ddb3552d9791b112774fdc3dee352590&d=DwIGaQ&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=1UITCR5rxUZHSFczvfaNFK4ymEbEiccRX7VKchpqz0Y&m=ehh0hf43JEqiCw-x1rainU3d6IrtsyDINsBf1Si97w8&s=0RAphmjYhFBne1eoVoWENmjxBhOAmUw_CguoS7HYU3U&e=
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>
>     >
>     >
>     > On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 8:24 AM, Aleksandar Kurtakov
>     <akurtako@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:akurtako@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>     > On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 3:15 PM, Daniel Megert
>     <daniel_megert@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:daniel_megert@xxxxxx.com>> wrote:
>     > > Dear Eclipse PMC
>     > >
>     > > Should we consider to bring back the internal method and ask for
>     a respin?
>     > > We could provide a fix earlier than Wednesday, but it can also
>     be risky to
>     > > respin the Platform/JDT at this point,.
>     >
>     > While the "practical me" would say "Yes, if JDT team feels comfortable
>     > with that", I'm leaning towards -1 for this one because it practically
>     > means treating internals as API thus encouraging people to use them
>     > directly instead of working close with projects they depend on to make
>     > APIs stronger and more feature full.
>     > I would +1 a case where the method is bringed back in Oxygen only for
>     > the sake of preserving some compatibility.
>     >
>     > >
>     > > Dani
>     > >
>     > > ----- Forwarded by Daniel Megert/Zurich/IBM on 06.10.2017 14:11
>     -----
>     > >
>     > > From: Sven Efftinge <sven.efftinge@xxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:sven.efftinge@typefox.io>>
>     > > To: Cross project issues <cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org
>     <mailto:cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
>     > > Date: 06.10.2017 13:59
>     > > Subject: [cross-project-issues-dev] Xtext is broken in Oxygen 1a
>     > > Sent by: cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>     > > ________________________________
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >
>     > > Hi all,
>     > >
>     > > Xtext is broken in Oxygen 1a, due to a signature change in an
>     internal API
>     > > of JDT [1][2]. It is a real blocker for Xtext and any downstream
>     projects.
>     > > Xtext will release a new version 2.13 with a fix on October 20.
>     > >
>     > > We could also create a bugfix release for Oxygen 1a, given we
>     decide this is
>     > > important enough to do a respin. We could provide it by Wednesday.
>     > >
>     > > Regards,
>     > > Sven
>     > >
>     > > [1] -
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