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Re: [eclipse.org-planning-council] Respin Request - Re: Heads-Up: [eclipse-pmc] [cross-project-issues-dev] Xtext is broken in Oxygen 1a

+1

Le 07/10/2017 à 20:51, Mikaël Barbero a écrit :
+1


Le 7 oct. 2017 à 19:46, Adrian MOS[MOS Adrian] <adrian.mos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:adrian.mos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> a écrit :

+1


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On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 3:55 PM, Daniel Megert <daniel_megert@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:daniel_megert@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

    Dear Planning Council Members

    The Eclipse top-level PMC agreed that we should respin Oxygen 1a
RC2 to provide a fix for the broken Xtext code (see details below).

    The Eclipse top-level project hereby officially asks the Planning
    Council to cast their vote on a respin.

    Please cast your vote asap. The fixes are ready on our side.


+1



    Thanks!
    Dani



    From: Aleksandar Kurtakov <akurtako@xxxxxxxxxx
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    To: Eclipse Planning Council private list
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    Date: 06.10.2017 18:15
    Subject: Re: [eclipse.org <http://eclipse.org>-planning-council]
    Heads-Up: [eclipse-pmc] [cross-project-issues-dev] Fw: Xtext is
    broken in Oxygen 1a
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    On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 5:54 PM, Daniel Megert
<_daniel_megert@xxxxxx.com_ <mailto:daniel_megert@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
    We might have to discuss a respin for Oxygen 1a. Still pending
    Eclipse PMC decision.

    +1 for a respin with the 3 fixes in question.



    Dani

----- Forwarded by Daniel Megert/Zurich/IBM on 06.10.2017 16:51 -----

    From: Daniel Megert/Zurich/IBM
    To: _eclipse-pmc@eclipse.org_ <mailto:eclipse-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
    Cc: Cross project issues <_cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org_
    <mailto:cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>,
    _cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@eclipse.org_
    <mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
    _eclipse-pmc-bounces@eclipse.org_
    <mailto:eclipse-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
    Date: 06.10.2017 16:50
    Subject: Re: [eclipse-pmc] [cross-project-issues-dev] Fw: Xtext is
    broken in      Oxygen 1a
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    Lars, Martin

    Can you also cast your vote?

In addition to the two mentioned bugs we would also provide a fix for:
    _Bug 525583_
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__bugs.eclipse.org_525583&d=DwMFaQ&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=1UITCR5rxUZHSFczvfaNFK4ymEbEiccRX7VKchpqz0Y&m=OMciy738zh8LhLttSpasy4DJ6GrDhsKn8tF1CYQ4J5k&s=KZ-867iOwMKoCJZKM0TiQdAlWab07VBTiSpaoHnA5OU&e=>:
    'Nested' Eclipse Application Launch configuration fails to launch
    on Java 9 and Eclipse 4.7.1a




    Dani



    From: "Mike Wilson" <_Mike_Wilson@xxxxxx.com_
    <mailto:Mike_Wilson@xxxxxxxxxx>>
    To: Cross project issues <_cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org_
    <mailto:cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
    Cc: _cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@eclipse.org_
    <mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
    "_eclipse-pmc@eclipse.org_ <mailto:eclipse-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx>"
    <_eclipse-pmc@eclipse.org_ <mailto:eclipse-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
    Date: 06.10.2017 15:56
    Subject: Re: [eclipse-pmc] [cross-project-issues-dev] Fw: Xtext is
    broken in      Oxygen 1a
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    I agree with Alex's assessment of the perils of using internals.
    Given the seriousness of this problem, I would suggest we do a
    respin anyway, and would argue we should fix the internal
    signature at the same time. In return, the XText team should
    commit to getting off the use of that method asap, with our help
    to add missing (actual) API as needed.

    McQ.

    "Daniel Megert" ---2017/10/06 08:42:19---In case of a respin we
    would definitely include that fix. Dani

    From: "Daniel Megert" <_daniel_megert@xxxxxx.com_
    <mailto:daniel_megert@xxxxxxxxxx>>
    To: Cross project issues <_cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org_
    <mailto:cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
    Cc: _cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@eclipse.org_
    <mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
    "_eclipse-pmc@eclipse.org_ <mailto:eclipse-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx>"
    <_eclipse-pmc@eclipse.org_ <mailto:eclipse-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
    Date: 2017/10/06 08:42
    Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Fw: Xtext is broken in
    Oxygen 1a
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    In case of a respin we would definitely include that fix.

    Dani



    From: Fred Bricon <_fbricon@gmail.com_ <mailto:fbricon@xxxxxxxxx>>
    To: Cross project issues <_cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org_
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    Cc: "_eclipse-pmc@eclipse.org_ <mailto:eclipse-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx>"
    <_eclipse-pmc@eclipse.org_ <mailto:eclipse-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
    Date: 06.10.2017 14:30
    Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Fw: Xtext is broken in
    Oxygen 1a
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    While we're on the subject of respinning RC2, JDT has a critical
    bug[1] that prevents any project with multiple output folders
    (Maven, Gradle) from running any class (be it main or test) from
    the IDE, with Java 9.
    A simple fix[2] was committed yesterday in master, I strongly
    believe this should be backported to Oxygen.1a, given that, most
    likely, all new greenfield Java 9 projects will use a build tool
    affected by that bug.

    [1] _https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=525382_
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    [2]
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    On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 8:24 AM, Aleksandar Kurtakov
    <_akurtako@redhat.com_ <mailto:akurtako@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
    On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 3:15 PM, Daniel Megert
<_daniel_megert@xxxxxx.com_ <mailto:daniel_megert@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
    > Dear Eclipse PMC
    >
    > Should we consider to bring back the internal method and ask for
    a respin?
    > We could provide a fix earlier than Wednesday, but it can also
    be risky to
    > respin the Platform/JDT at this point,.

While the "practical me" would say "Yes, if JDT team feels comfortable with that", I'm leaning towards -1 for this one because it practically means treating internals as API thus encouraging people to use them directly instead of working close with projects they depend on to make
    APIs stronger and more feature full.
I would +1 a case where the method is bringed back in Oxygen only for
    the sake of preserving some compatibility.

    >
    > Dani
    >
    > ----- Forwarded by Daniel Megert/Zurich/IBM on _06.10.2017 14_
    <tel:06.10.2017%2014>:11 -----
    >
    > From: Sven Efftinge <_sven.efftinge@typefox.io_
    <mailto:sven.efftinge@xxxxxxxxxx>>
    > To: Cross project issues <_cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org_
    <mailto:cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
    > Date: _06.10.2017 13_ <tel:06.10.2017%2013>:59
    > Subject: [cross-project-issues-dev] Xtext is broken in Oxygen 1a
    > Sent by: _cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@eclipse.org_
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    >
    >
    > Hi all,
    >
    > Xtext is broken in Oxygen 1a, due to a signature change in an
    internal API
    > of JDT [1][2]. It is a real blocker for Xtext and any downstream
    projects.
    > Xtext will release a new version 2.13 with a fix on October 20.
    >
    > We could also create a bugfix release for Oxygen 1a, given we
    decide this is
> important enough to do a respin. We could provide it by Wednesday.
    >
    > Regards,
    > Sven
    >
    > [1] - _https://github.com/eclipse/xtext-eclipse/issues/393_
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