| [eclipse.org-planning-council] RE: [cross-project-issues-dev] Re: NAB |
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John, I disagree. Being on the train means doing all the must doâs from Ganymede,
not just being on the update site. As Nick and Martin have pointed out, NAB has
done everything but the .sc file: milestones, signing, packing, iplog,
about files, legal review, release review, etc. We need to stop saying NAB was
never on the train. Itâs not fair to Shigeki, and itâs not correct. That being said, given that NAB is only missing on the update
site and everything else is good, Iâm beginning to lose interest in this
discussion. I think the packages are more useful than the update site anyway. And
since most of the projects in DSDP need additional tooling that canât be
included on eclipse.org (GPL issues), even the packages donât help us that much.
We are starting an off-site packaging initiative to address this. So, I commend Shigeki for struggling through the difficult
language barrier and doing the Ganymede work. Shigeki â if itâs ok with you, I suggest we just not worry about
the update site anymore. I suggest you ask Bjorn to rerun the build so you can
test your .sc file in the staging area. We can leave it at that. Doug G From:
cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John
Arthorne
From: Oberhuber, Martin Hi
Shigeki, please
post to the
cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx mailing
list as well as the
eclipse.org-planning-council@xxxxxxxxxxx
mailing
list. I
know that you are subscribed to cross-project, but I am not 100%
sure if you are also subscribed to planning-council. The
planning council list is a "closed" one where you need to
ask the EMO by means of an E-Mail to get subscribed -- you
cannot subscribe yourself there. Cheers,
--
Martin Oberhuber, Senior Member of Technical
Staff, Wind River Target
Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm From: Gaff, Doug Can
you post this to eclipse.org-planning-council today? You can subscribe here if
youâre not already subscribed: https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/eclipse.org-planning-council
I
think it may be too late, but letâs see. From:
moride.shigeki@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:moride.shigeki@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Shigeki Moride Doug Sorry, yesterday was a holiday. Firstly, eclipse.org-planning-council ML is not feeding for me. So, I think the reason of this fact. 1) I couldn't understand the meaning of Ganymede Must Do #10. I understand
that term as about Ganymede Signoff page on wiki. Is there any pointer to the
issue of *.sc file? 2) I seem Ganymede Build page is only described "automatic build".
I couldn't find the necessity to making *.sc file to the project that have a
builded packages. 3) I feel relief at the passage of the release review. 4) Generally, if that issue was announced on cross-project-issues-dev or
other ML then it is too difficult to find it. Because that ML have too much
traffic to read all for non-native English reader. I'm sorry about this but
this is a fact. I need help to tracking that discussion. Please give me a
head-up information. Shigeki Tue, 1 Jul 2008 06:44:58 -0700 "Gaff, Doug" <doug.gaff@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote: Are you following the discussion on the eclipse.org-planning-council
mailing list? Martin and I have advocated that you be added to the Ganymede
release. But itâs really time for you to make the case on the list and explain
why you didnât understand the instructions. Doug From: Oberhuber, Martin Hi
Doug, I
think that Shigeki should have the final word on this. It doesn't seem right
that we fight for his project, and he doesn't even care about sending a
single e-mail to the cross-project list. I think he must have the final word
of either
(a) explaining why he didn't understand the instructions, and asking for
his project to be picked up, or
(b) withdrawing the request. After
all it's his project and we're just mentoring it, right? My personal opinion
(and that's for Doug S, Nick and Bjorn) is that while it seems absolutely
obvious for us build+releng guys that creating a *.sc file is required
for the Ganymatic, it's not that obvious for somebody just reading the
"must do's". The original text, already cited by Nick, is:
...
and to the Ganymede build infrastructure" mean? I
agree that SHigeki can't have been too keen about joining Ganymede but
it might also be a cultural question. However,
I think he should have the final word, and not you. Cheers,
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Martin Oberhuber, Senior Member of Technical
Staff, Wind River Target
Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm -- Shigeki Moride |