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Ok. I'm a C++ guy and that's probably not valid XML. But,
yes, it would be awesome to have a single build of Ganymede bits, all of them,
done in a single pass, by a single build machine.
Doug.
Bjorn,
It seems to me that STP's +3 bits aren't due until the 18th.
Could we just say that if those bits aren't signed at that time, then they
won't be in the final bits? Or is there some reason we have to decide earlier
than that? I know from chatting with Oisin that he's scrambling trying to get
builds done with glitches in Buckminster that's leaving him with a manual
task. And Nick is trying to help him as I type this note...
<pointless-rambling>
I've never quite understood why it's so
important to everyone that everyone else sign all their bits. But then I've
not spent a lot of time trying to understand it, and we did all agree to it,
so I suppose it's pointless to ask why it's so important. The must do's did
state that exceptions could be granted. Kind of like dispensations. Maybe if
STP bought chocolate for all the other islanders we'd be inclined to vote more
favorably...
</pointless-rambling>
<rant>
Of course
this whole issue highlights a more fundamental problem, and that's the huge
investment that goes into making all these darned builds work. All this
release engineering stuff is a full time job for Nick. By the time we add up
all the releng support that goes into Ganymede, and consider how much overlap
there is in the various tasks, you've got to think there must be a more
productive way to make this happen. I mean for goodness sake, this is an open
source community, surely we can do a better job on the infrastructure front
given the resources are being poured in already
anyway...
</rant>
Ed Merks/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA
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 Bjorn Freeman-Benson
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Mitch,
I think we should give them more time. How much time? The final release bits are supposed to be built on
Friday. And that assumes that there has been integration testing, etc. all
along through the RC process... Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to be mean,
I'm just asking the perfectly practical questions: how much slippage is the
team willing to allow STP? Are we going to slip the whole Ganymede? Are we
going to rebuild the whole Ganymede 48 hours before the big launch to
accommodate STP? What are the constraints?
- Bjorn
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