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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<pre>I've opened bug 282036 to track mechanical tasks associated with this 
issue. 
<a  href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=282036">https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=282036</a>





From:
Wayne Beaton &lt;wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx&gt;
To:
&quot;eclipse.org-planning-council&quot; &lt;eclipse.org-planning-council@xxxxxxxxxxx&gt;
Date:
06/30/2009 10:58 AM
Subject:
Re: [eclipse.org-planning-council] [Fwd: Re: Swordfish Release, Missing 
CQs]
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I just compared the JARs in the repository with those in Oliver's list 
and I am pretty sure that we don't have to worry about this. 
Specifically, AFAICT, there appears to be exactly one version of each of 
the JARs listed by Oliver. One thing that I'm not sure how to determine 
is whether or not anybody else cares about any of these JARs. They 
shouldn't, but it is possible.

Wayne

Wayne Beaton wrote:
&gt; My concern with option 1 is that the p2 resolver might, under some 
&gt; conditions, select some of the JARs that must be removed. This might 
&gt; happen if, for example, one of the errant JARs is one of two different 
&gt; versions of the same library.
&gt;
&gt; I did a quick scan of the plugins directory and didn't see anything, 
&gt; but closer scrutiny is required. I will look closer.
&gt;
&gt; Wayne
&gt;
&gt; David M Williams wrote:
&gt;&gt; Option 1. The easiest, would be just to delete the files from Galileo 
&gt;&gt; site. Once that had percolated to all mirrors then Swordfish would 
&gt;&gt; still show up in the Categories, but would fail if someone tried to 
&gt;&gt; install it. Not that great, but easiest and in some ways safest.
&gt;&gt; Option 2. Respin. This might work but some projects have changed 
&gt;&gt; feature versions in their .build files since Galileo was released. 
&gt;&gt; Specifically: Currently in .build files; &lt;features 
&gt;&gt; id=&quot;org.eclipse.emf.ecoretools.sdk&quot; version=&quot;0.9.0.v200906221231&quot; 
&gt;&gt; repo=&quot;//@repositories.0&quot;&gt;
&gt;&gt; &lt;features id=&quot;org.eclipse.emf.mint.sdk&quot; version=&quot;0.8.0.v200906161513&quot; 
&gt;&gt; repo=&quot;//@repositories.0&quot;&gt;
&gt;&gt; &lt;features id=&quot;org.eclipse.uml2tools.sdk&quot; 
&gt;&gt; version=&quot;0.9.0.v200906190654&quot; repo=&quot;//@repositories.0&quot;&gt;
&gt;&gt; But, in Galileo repo: &lt;features id=&quot;org.eclipse.emf.ecoretools.sdk&quot; 
&gt;&gt; version=&quot;0.9.0.v200906031210&quot; repo=&quot;//@repositories.0&quot;&gt;
&gt;&gt; &lt;features id=&quot;org.eclipse.emf.mint.sdk&quot; version=&quot;0.8.0.v200906110922&quot; 
&gt;&gt; repo=&quot;//@repositories.0&quot;&gt;
&gt;&gt; &lt;features id=&quot;org.eclipse.uml2tools.sdk&quot; 
&gt;&gt; version=&quot;0.9.0.v200906031456&quot; repo=&quot;//@repositories.0&quot;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Are these significant? Does anyone care? Are they used anywhere, such 
&gt;&gt; as in EPP packages? Would the old versions still work?
&gt;&gt; Option 3. Regenerate meta-data only, using what's on the Galileo site 
&gt;&gt; (or, the version of the .build files tagged RC5a) minus the Swordfish 
&gt;&gt; contributions and features. I've asked Thomas to comment on what this 
&gt;&gt; would take in his builder.
&gt;&gt; Anyone have preferences? Any other ideas?
&gt;&gt; I've removed Swordfish from the Galileo contributions and am trying a 
&gt;&gt; respin, to see if it works at all, and if it does work, we might be 
&gt;&gt; able to get a more exact understanding of what's changed and what 
&gt;&gt; hasn't.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; From:
&gt;&gt; Wayne Beaton &lt;wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx&gt;
&gt;&gt; To:
&gt;&gt; &quot;eclipse.org-planning-council&quot; 
&gt;&gt; &lt;eclipse.org-planning-council@xxxxxxxxxxx&gt;
&gt;&gt; Date:
&gt;&gt; 06/29/2009 10:56 PM
&gt;&gt; Subject:
&gt;&gt; [eclipse.org-planning-council] [Fwd: Re: Swordfish Release, 
&gt;&gt; Missing CQs]
&gt;&gt; Sent by:
&gt;&gt; eclipse.org-planning-council-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; I am resending as my original note was put into a holding pattern...
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; -------- Original Message --------
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Hello Planning Council.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; It has been determined that the Swordfish project has included 
&gt;&gt; several third party libraries in their downloads, their update site, 
&gt;&gt; and the Galileo Update site that have not been taken through the 
&gt;&gt; Eclipse IP Due Diligence process. The full list of problems is copied 
&gt;&gt; below.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; I have been informed by the IP Team that they cannot reasonably 
&gt;&gt; complete the ten reviews suggested by Oliver by Friday.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; This leaves us with an IP exposure in the Galileo Update site that we 
&gt;&gt; need to mitigate. I believe that the Galileo update site will need to 
&gt;&gt; be respun, excluding Swordfish. I understand that this is no simple 
&gt;&gt; chore and that it will require effort from many of us to complete. I 
&gt;&gt; assume, for example, that the testing effort will be non-trivial.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; I am seeking your guidance on how we can proceed.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; I further request that the Planning Council initiate a conversation 
&gt;&gt; with Swordfish on how best to move forward once the IP issues have 
&gt;&gt; been resolved.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Thanks,
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Wayne
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Barb Cochrane wrote:
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt;&gt; Hi Oliver,
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; It's hard for us to predict whether we're going to be able to 
&gt;&gt;&gt; clarify IP 
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; for
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt;&gt; any given package.
&gt;&gt;&gt; The best thing to do would be to start entering the CQs (attaching 
&gt;&gt;&gt; just 
&gt;&gt; the
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt;&gt; jars you require to each) so we can start to assess the packages on 
&gt;&gt;&gt; a 
&gt;&gt; case
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt;&gt; by case basis.
&gt;&gt;&gt; Thanks!
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Barb
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; -----Original Message-----
&gt;&gt;&gt; From: Oliver Wolf [<a  href="mailto:oliver.wolf@xxxxxxxxx">mailto:oliver.wolf@xxxxxxxxx</a>] Sent: Monday, June 
&gt;&gt;&gt; 29, 2009 12:05 PM
&gt;&gt;&gt; To: Runtime Project PMC mailing list; Wayne Beaton; Eclipse Management
&gt;&gt;&gt; Organization; emo-ip-team@xxxxxxxxxxx
&gt;&gt;&gt; Cc: Zsolt Beothy-Elo; Dietmar Wolz; J&#xFC;rgen Kindler
&gt;&gt;&gt; Subject: Swordfish Release, Missing CQs
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Dear RT PMC members, EMO, and IP team,
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; The Swordfish project has finalized the in-depth analysis of missing 
&gt;&gt;&gt; or 
&gt;&gt; not
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt;&gt; matching CQs. These are our findings:
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; 1. Third party libs w/o CQ
&gt;&gt;&gt; --------------------------
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; org.apache.servicemix.document_1.0.0.v200906161300.jar
&gt;&gt;&gt; servicemixcommon_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar
&gt;&gt;&gt; servicemixhttp_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar
&gt;&gt;&gt; servicemixsoap2_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar
&gt;&gt;&gt; servicemixsoap_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar
&gt;&gt;&gt; servicemixutils_1.1.0.v200906161300.jar
&gt;&gt;&gt; net.sf.cglib_2.1.3.v200906161300.jar
&gt;&gt;&gt; org.apache.axiom_1.2.5.v200906161300.jar
&gt;&gt;&gt; org.apache.servicemix.cxf.binding.nmr_4.0.0.v200906161300.jar
&gt;&gt;&gt; org.apache.servicemix.cxf.transport.nmr_4.0.0.v200906161300.jar
&gt;&gt;&gt; org.apache.servicemix.cxf.transport.osgi_4.0.0.v200906161300.jar
&gt;&gt;&gt; org.apache.xbean.xbean.spring_3.5.0.v200906161300.jar
&gt;&gt;&gt; org.codehaus.stax2_3.2.7.v200906161300.jar
&gt;&gt;&gt; org.jvnet.staxex_1.0.0.v200906161300.jar
&gt;&gt;&gt; org.objectweb.howl_1.0.1.1_v200906161300.jar
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Of these, the following ones have been unnecessarily included and 
&gt;&gt;&gt; can be
&gt;&gt;&gt; removed without any impact on functionality:
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; org.codehaus.stax2_3.2.7.v200906161300.jar
&gt;&gt;&gt; org.jvnet.staxex_1.0.0.v200906161300.jar
&gt;&gt;&gt; org.objectweb.howl_1.0.1.1_v200906161300.jar
&gt;&gt;&gt; net.sf.cglib_2.1.3.v200906161300.jar
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Of the remaining ones, one has previously been approved for use within
&gt;&gt;&gt; Eclipse:
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; org.apache.axiom_1.2.5.v200906161300.jar
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; This leaves us with 10 jars for which new CQs would have to be filed 
&gt;&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt; (all of
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt;&gt; them Apache2-licensed, hosted at Apache and relatively small):
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; org.apache.servicemix.document_1.0.0.v200906161300.jar
&gt;&gt;&gt; servicemixcommon_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar
&gt;&gt;&gt; servicemixhttp_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar
&gt;&gt;&gt; servicemixsoap2_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar
&gt;&gt;&gt; servicemixsoap_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar
&gt;&gt;&gt; servicemixutils_1.1.0.v200906161300.jar
&gt;&gt;&gt; org.apache.servicemix.cxf.binding.nmr_4.0.0.v200906161300.jar
&gt;&gt;&gt; org.apache.servicemix.cxf.transport.nmr_4.0.0.v200906161300.jar
&gt;&gt;&gt; org.apache.servicemix.cxf.transport.osgi_4.0.0.v200906161300.jar
&gt;&gt;&gt; org.apache.xbean.xbean.spring_3.5.0.v200906161300.jar
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; @IP team: Given your prior experience analyzing ServiceMix source 
&gt;&gt;&gt; code, 
&gt;&gt; how
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt;&gt; would you rate the risk?
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; 2. Third party libs w/ CQ, but version shipped differs from CQ
&gt;&gt;&gt; --------------------------------------------------------------
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; org.apache.xbean.xbean.classloader_3.5.0.v200906161300.jar 
&gt;&gt;&gt; (approved: 
&gt;&gt; 3.4.1)
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt;&gt; org.springframework.osgi.io_1.2.0.rc1_v200906161300.jar (approved: 
&gt;&gt; 1.0.2)
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt;&gt; org.springframework.osgi.extender_1.2.0.rc1_v200906161300.jar 
&gt;&gt;&gt; (approved:
&gt;&gt;&gt; 1.0.2)
&gt;&gt;&gt; org.springframework.osgi.core_1.2.0.rc1_v200906161300.jar 
&gt;&gt;&gt; (approved: 
&gt;&gt; 1.0.2)
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt;&gt; org.springframework.core_2.5.6.v200906161300.jar  (approved: 2.5.2)
&gt;&gt;&gt; org.springframework.context_2.5.6.v200906161300.jar (approved: 2.5.2)
&gt;&gt;&gt; org.springframework.beans_2.5.6.v200906161300.jar (approved: 2.5.2)
&gt;&gt;&gt; org.springframework.aop_2.5.6.v200906161300.jar (approved: 2.5.2)
&gt;&gt;&gt; org.apache.cxf.cxf-bundle_2.1.4.v200906161300.jar (approved: 2.1.3)
&gt;&gt;&gt; org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-bindings-jbi_2.1.4.v200906161300.jar 
&gt;&gt;&gt; (approved: 
&gt;&gt; 2.1.3)
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt;&gt; org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-transports-jbi_2.1.4.v200906161300.jar 
(approved:
&gt;&gt;&gt; 2.1.3)
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Of these, for one we would have to file a new CQ requesting a version
&gt;&gt;&gt; change:
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; org.apache.xbean.xbean.classloader_3.5.0.v200906161300.jar 
&gt;&gt;&gt; (approved: 
&gt;&gt; 3.4.1)
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt;&gt; In all other cases, we'll be able to switch back to the approved 
&gt;&gt; version.
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt;&gt; We are confident that we would be able to file the missing CQs and 
&gt;&gt; create
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt;&gt; and regression test a new build containing the correct versionsand 
&gt;&gt;&gt; with 
&gt;&gt; all
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt;&gt; the unnecessary jars removed until Friday EOB.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; @RT PMC, EMO: Please advise us on how to proceed from here.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Best Regards,
&gt;&gt;&gt; Oliver
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; 
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		<title>Re: [eclipse.org-planning-council] [Fwd: Re: Swordfish Release,	Missing CQs]</title>
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		<description>for the case not (all of how 3.4.1) 1.0.2) 1.0.2) 2.1.3) 3.4.1) version. create all _______________________________________________ eclipse.org-architecture-council mailing list eclipse.org-architecture-council@xxxxxxxxxxx https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/l...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<tt>I just compared the JARs in the repository with those in Oliver's list 
and I am pretty sure that we don't have to worry about this. 
Specifically, AFAICT, there appears to be exactly one version of each of 
the JARs listed by Oliver. One thing that I'm not sure how to determine 
is whether or not anybody else cares about any of these JARs. They 
shouldn't, but it is possible.</tt><br>
<br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Wayne</pre><br>
<tt>Wayne Beaton wrote:
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><tt>My concern with option 1 is that the p2 resolver might, under some 
conditions, select some of the JARs that must be removed. This might 
happen if, for example, one of the errant JARs is one of two different 
versions of the same library.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>I did a quick scan of the plugins directory and didn't see anything, 
but closer scrutiny is required. I will look closer.</tt><br>
<br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Wayne</pre><br>
<tt>David M Williams wrote:
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><tt>Option 1. The easiest, would be just to delete the files from Galileo 
site. Once that had percolated to all mirrors then Swordfish would 
still show up in the Categories, but would fail if someone tried to 
install it. Not that great, but easiest and in some ways safest.<br>
Option 2. Respin. This might work but some projects have changed 
feature versions in their .build files since Galileo was released. 
Specifically: Currently in .build files; &lt;features 
id=&quot;org.eclipse.emf.ecoretools.sdk&quot; version=&quot;0.9.0.v200906221231&quot; 
repo=&quot;//@repositories.0&quot;&gt;<br>
&lt;features id=&quot;org.eclipse.emf.mint.sdk&quot; version=&quot;0.8.0.v200906161513&quot; 
repo=&quot;//@repositories.0&quot;&gt;<br>
&lt;features id=&quot;org.eclipse.uml2tools.sdk&quot; 
version=&quot;0.9.0.v200906190654&quot; repo=&quot;//@repositories.0&quot;&gt;<br>
But, in Galileo repo: &lt;features id=&quot;org.eclipse.emf.ecoretools.sdk&quot; 
version=&quot;0.9.0.v200906031210&quot; repo=&quot;//@repositories.0&quot;&gt;<br>
&lt;features id=&quot;org.eclipse.emf.mint.sdk&quot; version=&quot;0.8.0.v200906110922&quot; 
repo=&quot;//@repositories.0&quot;&gt;<br>
&lt;features id=&quot;org.eclipse.uml2tools.sdk&quot; 
version=&quot;0.9.0.v200906031456&quot; repo=&quot;//@repositories.0&quot;&gt;</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Are these significant? Does anyone care? Are they used anywhere, such 
as in EPP packages? Would the old versions still work?<br>
Option 3. Regenerate meta-data only, using what's on the Galileo site 
(or, the version of the .build files tagged RC5a) minus the Swordfish 
contributions and features. I've asked Thomas to comment on what this 
would take in his builder.<br>
Anyone have preferences? Any other ideas?<br>
I've removed Swordfish from the Galileo contributions and am trying a 
respin, to see if it works at all, and if it does work, we might be 
able to get a more exact understanding of what's changed and what 
hasn't.</tt><br>
<br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;"><br></pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;"><br></pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;"><br></pre><br>
<tt>From:<br>
Wayne Beaton &lt;wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx&gt;<br>
To:<br>
&quot;eclipse.org-planning-council&quot; 
&lt;eclipse.org-planning-council@xxxxxxxxxxx&gt;<br>
Date:<br>
06/29/2009 10:56 PM<br>
Subject:<br>
[eclipse.org-planning-council] [Fwd: Re: Swordfish Release,     
Missing CQs]<br>
Sent by:<br>
eclipse.org-planning-council-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx</tt><br>
<br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;"><br></pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">I am resending as my original note was put into a holding pattern...</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">-------- Original Message --------</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Hello Planning Council.</pre><br>
<tt>It has been determined that the Swordfish project has included 
several third party libraries in their downloads, their update site, 
and the Galileo Update site that have not been taken through the 
Eclipse IP Due Diligence process. The full list of problems is copied 
below.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>I have been informed by the IP Team that they cannot reasonably 
complete the ten reviews suggested by Oliver by Friday.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>This leaves us with an IP exposure in the Galileo Update site that we 
need to mitigate. I believe that the Galileo update site will need to 
be respun, excluding Swordfish. I understand that this is no simple 
chore and that it will require effort from many of us to complete. I 
assume, for example, that the testing effort will be non-trivial.</tt><br>
<br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">I am seeking your guidance on how we can proceed.</pre><br>
<tt>I further request that the Planning Council initiate a conversation 
with Swordfish on how best to move forward once the IP issues have 
been resolved.</tt><br>
<br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Thanks,</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Wayne</pre><br>
<tt><br>Barb Cochrane wrote:<br>
 
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><pre style="margin: 0em;">Hi Oliver,</pre><br>
<tt>It's hard for us to predict whether we're going to be able to 
clarify IP     
</tt></blockquote><tt><br>for<br>
 
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><tt>any given package.<br>
The best thing to do would be to start entering the CQs (attaching 
just     
</tt></blockquote><tt>the<br>
 
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><tt>jars you require to each) so we can start to assess the packages on 
a     
</tt></blockquote><tt>case<br>
 
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><pre style="margin: 0em;">by case basis.
Thanks!</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Barb</pre><br>
<tt>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Oliver Wolf [<a  href="mailto:oliver.wolf@xxxxxxxxx">mailto:oliver.wolf@xxxxxxxxx</a>] Sent: Monday, June 
29, 2009 12:05 PM<br>
To: Runtime Project PMC mailing list; Wayne Beaton; Eclipse Management<br>
Organization; emo-ip-team@xxxxxxxxxxx<br>
Cc: Zsolt Beothy-Elo; Dietmar Wolz; J&#xFC;rgen Kindler<br>
Subject: Swordfish Release, Missing CQs</tt><br>
<br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Dear RT PMC members, EMO, and IP team,</pre><br>
<tt>The Swordfish project has finalized the in-depth analysis of missing 
or     
</tt></blockquote><tt>not<br>
 
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><pre style="margin: 0em;">matching CQs. These are our findings:</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">1. Third party libs w/o CQ
--------------------------</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">org.apache.servicemix.document_1.0.0.v200906161300.jar
servicemixcommon_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar
servicemixhttp_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar
servicemixsoap2_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar
servicemixsoap_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar
servicemixutils_1.1.0.v200906161300.jar
net.sf.cglib_2.1.3.v200906161300.jar
org.apache.axiom_1.2.5.v200906161300.jar
org.apache.servicemix.cxf.binding.nmr_4.0.0.v200906161300.jar
org.apache.servicemix.cxf.transport.nmr_4.0.0.v200906161300.jar
org.apache.servicemix.cxf.transport.osgi_4.0.0.v200906161300.jar
org.apache.xbean.xbean.spring_3.5.0.v200906161300.jar
org.codehaus.stax2_3.2.7.v200906161300.jar
org.jvnet.staxex_1.0.0.v200906161300.jar
org.objectweb.howl_1.0.1.1_v200906161300.jar</pre><br>
<tt>Of these, the following ones have been unnecessarily included and 
can be<br>
removed without any impact on functionality:</tt><br>
<br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">org.codehaus.stax2_3.2.7.v200906161300.jar
org.jvnet.staxex_1.0.0.v200906161300.jar
org.objectweb.howl_1.0.1.1_v200906161300.jar
net.sf.cglib_2.1.3.v200906161300.jar</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Of the remaining ones, one has previously been approved for use within
Eclipse:</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">org.apache.axiom_1.2.5.v200906161300.jar</pre><br>
<tt>This leaves us with 10 jars for which new CQs would have to be filed 
    
</tt></blockquote><tt>(all of<br>
 
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><pre style="margin: 0em;">them Apache2-licensed, hosted at Apache and relatively small):</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">org.apache.servicemix.document_1.0.0.v200906161300.jar
servicemixcommon_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar
servicemixhttp_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar
servicemixsoap2_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar
servicemixsoap_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar
servicemixutils_1.1.0.v200906161300.jar
org.apache.servicemix.cxf.binding.nmr_4.0.0.v200906161300.jar
org.apache.servicemix.cxf.transport.nmr_4.0.0.v200906161300.jar
org.apache.servicemix.cxf.transport.osgi_4.0.0.v200906161300.jar
org.apache.xbean.xbean.spring_3.5.0.v200906161300.jar</pre><br>
<tt>@IP team: Given your prior experience analyzing ServiceMix source 
code,     
</tt></blockquote><tt>how<br>
 
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><pre style="margin: 0em;">would you rate the risk?</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">2. Third party libs w/ CQ, but version shipped differs from CQ
--------------------------------------------------------------</pre><br>
<tt>org.apache.xbean.xbean.classloader_3.5.0.v200906161300.jar 
(approved:     
</tt></blockquote><tt>3.4.1)<br>
 
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><tt>org.springframework.osgi.io_1.2.0.rc1_v200906161300.jar (approved:     
</tt></blockquote><tt>1.0.2)<br>
 
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><tt>org.springframework.osgi.extender_1.2.0.rc1_v200906161300.jar 
(approved:<br>
1.0.2)<br>
org.springframework.osgi.core_1.2.0.rc1_v200906161300.jar  
(approved:     
</tt></blockquote><tt>1.0.2)<br>
 
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><tt>org.springframework.core_2.5.6.v200906161300.jar  (approved: 2.5.2)<br>
org.springframework.context_2.5.6.v200906161300.jar (approved: 2.5.2)<br>
org.springframework.beans_2.5.6.v200906161300.jar (approved: 2.5.2)<br>
org.springframework.aop_2.5.6.v200906161300.jar (approved: 2.5.2)<br>
org.apache.cxf.cxf-bundle_2.1.4.v200906161300.jar (approved: 2.1.3)<br>
org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-bindings-jbi_2.1.4.v200906161300.jar 
(approved:     
</tt></blockquote><tt>2.1.3)<br>
 
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><pre style="margin: 0em;">org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-transports-jbi_2.1.4.v200906161300.jar (approved:
2.1.3)</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Of these, for one we would have to file a new CQ requesting a version
change:</pre><br>
<tt>org.apache.xbean.xbean.classloader_3.5.0.v200906161300.jar 
(approved:     
</tt></blockquote><tt>3.4.1)<br>
 
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><tt>In all other cases, we'll be able to switch back to the approved     
</tt></blockquote><tt>version.<br>
 
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><tt>We are confident that we would be able to file the missing CQs and     
</tt></blockquote><tt>create<br>
 
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><tt>and regression test a new build containing the correct versionsand 
with     
</tt></blockquote><tt>all<br>
 
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><pre style="margin: 0em;">the unnecessary jars removed until Friday EOB.</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">@RT PMC, EMO: Please advise us on how to proceed from here.</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Best Regards,
Oliver</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;"><br></pre><br>
<tt>    
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		<author>wayne@xxxxxxx (Wayne Beaton)</author>
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		<title>Re: [eclipse.org-planning-council] [Fwd: Re: Swordfish Release,	Missing CQs]</title>
		<link>http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/eclipse.org-planning-council/msg01635.html</link>
		<description>for the case not (all of how 3.4.1) 1.0.2) 1.0.2) 2.1.3) 3.4.1) version. create all _______________________________________________ eclipse.org-architecture-council mailing list eclipse.org-architecture-council@xxxxxxxxxxx https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/l...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<tt>My concern with option 1 is that the p2 resolver might, under some 
conditions, select some of the JARs that must be removed. This might 
happen if, for example, one of the errant JARs is one of two different 
versions of the same library.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>I did a quick scan of the plugins directory and didn't see anything, but 
closer scrutiny is required. I will look closer.</tt><br>
<br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Wayne</pre><br>
<tt>David M Williams wrote:
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><tt>Option 1. The easiest, would be just to delete the files from Galileo 
site. Once that had percolated to all mirrors then Swordfish would still 
show up in the Categories, but would fail if someone tried to install it. 
Not that great, but easiest and in some ways safest. </tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Option 2. Respin. This might work but some projects have changed feature 
versions in their .build files since Galileo was released. Specifically: 
Currently in .build files; 
&lt;features id=&quot;org.eclipse.emf.ecoretools.sdk&quot; 
version=&quot;0.9.0.v200906221231&quot; repo=&quot;//@repositories.0&quot;&gt;<br>
&lt;features id=&quot;org.eclipse.emf.mint.sdk&quot; version=&quot;0.8.0.v200906161513&quot; 
repo=&quot;//@repositories.0&quot;&gt;<br>
&lt;features id=&quot;org.eclipse.uml2tools.sdk&quot; version=&quot;0.9.0.v200906190654&quot; 
repo=&quot;//@repositories.0&quot;&gt;<br>
But, in Galileo repo: 
&lt;features id=&quot;org.eclipse.emf.ecoretools.sdk&quot; 
version=&quot;0.9.0.v200906031210&quot; repo=&quot;//@repositories.0&quot;&gt;<br>
&lt;features id=&quot;org.eclipse.emf.mint.sdk&quot; version=&quot;0.8.0.v200906110922&quot; 
repo=&quot;//@repositories.0&quot;&gt;<br>
&lt;features id=&quot;org.eclipse.uml2tools.sdk&quot; version=&quot;0.9.0.v200906031456&quot; 
repo=&quot;//@repositories.0&quot;&gt;</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Are these significant? Does anyone care? Are they used anywhere, such as 
in EPP packages? Would the old versions still work? </tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Option 3. Regenerate meta-data only, using what's on the Galileo site (or, 
the version of the .build files tagged RC5a) minus the Swordfish 
contributions and features. I've asked Thomas to comment on what this 
would take in his builder. </tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Anyone have preferences? Any other ideas? </tt><br>
<br>
<tt>I've removed Swordfish from the Galileo contributions and am trying a 
respin, to see if it works at all, and if it does work, we might be able 
to get a more exact understanding of what's changed and what hasn't. </tt><br>
<br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;"><br></pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;"><br></pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;"><br></pre><br>
<tt><br>From:<br>
Wayne Beaton &lt;wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx&gt;<br>
To:<br>
&quot;eclipse.org-planning-council&quot; &lt;eclipse.org-planning-council@xxxxxxxxxxx&gt;<br>
Date:<br>
06/29/2009 10:56 PM<br>
Subject:<br>
[eclipse.org-planning-council] [Fwd: Re: Swordfish Release,     Missing 
CQs]<br>
Sent by:<br>
eclipse.org-planning-council-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx</tt><br>
<br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;"><br></pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">I am resending as my original note was put into a holding pattern...</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">-------- Original Message --------</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Hello Planning Council.</pre><br>
<tt>It has been determined that the Swordfish project has included several 
third party libraries in their downloads, their update site, and the 
Galileo Update site that have not been taken through the Eclipse IP Due 
Diligence process. The full list of problems is copied below.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>I have been informed by the IP Team that they cannot reasonably complete 
the ten reviews suggested by Oliver by Friday.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>This leaves us with an IP exposure in the Galileo Update site that we 
need to mitigate. I believe that the Galileo update site will need to be 
respun, excluding Swordfish. I understand that this is no simple chore 
and that it will require effort from many of us to complete. I assume, 
for example, that the testing effort will be non-trivial.</tt><br>
<br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">I am seeking your guidance on how we can proceed.</pre><br>
<tt>I further request that the Planning Council initiate a conversation with 
Swordfish on how best to move forward once the IP issues have been 
resolved.</tt><br>
<br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Thanks,</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Wayne</pre><br>
<tt><br>Barb Cochrane wrote:<br>
  
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><pre style="margin: 0em;">Hi Oliver,</pre><br>
<tt>It's hard for us to predict whether we're going to be able to clarify IP 
    
</tt></blockquote><tt><br>for<br>
  
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><tt>any given package. </tt><br>
<br>
<tt>The best thing to do would be to start entering the CQs (attaching just 
    
</tt></blockquote><tt>the<br>
  
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><tt>jars you require to each) so we can start to assess the packages on a 
    
</tt></blockquote><tt>case<br>
  
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><tt>by case basis. </tt><br>
<br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Thanks!</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Barb</pre><br>
<tt>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Oliver Wolf [<a  href="mailto:oliver.wolf@xxxxxxxxx">mailto:oliver.wolf@xxxxxxxxx</a>] 
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 12:05 PM<br>
To: Runtime Project PMC mailing list; Wayne Beaton; Eclipse Management<br>
Organization; emo-ip-team@xxxxxxxxxxx<br>
Cc: Zsolt Beothy-Elo; Dietmar Wolz; J&#xFC;rgen Kindler<br>
Subject: Swordfish Release, Missing CQs</tt><br>
<br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Dear RT PMC members, EMO, and IP team,</pre><br>
<tt>The Swordfish project has finalized the in-depth analysis of missing or 
    
</tt></blockquote><tt>not<br>
  
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><pre style="margin: 0em;">matching CQs. These are our findings:</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">1. Third party libs w/o CQ
--------------------------</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">org.apache.servicemix.document_1.0.0.v200906161300.jar
servicemixcommon_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar
servicemixhttp_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar
servicemixsoap2_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar
servicemixsoap_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar
servicemixutils_1.1.0.v200906161300.jar
net.sf.cglib_2.1.3.v200906161300.jar
org.apache.axiom_1.2.5.v200906161300.jar
org.apache.servicemix.cxf.binding.nmr_4.0.0.v200906161300.jar
org.apache.servicemix.cxf.transport.nmr_4.0.0.v200906161300.jar
org.apache.servicemix.cxf.transport.osgi_4.0.0.v200906161300.jar
org.apache.xbean.xbean.spring_3.5.0.v200906161300.jar
org.codehaus.stax2_3.2.7.v200906161300.jar
org.jvnet.staxex_1.0.0.v200906161300.jar
org.objectweb.howl_1.0.1.1_v200906161300.jar</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Of these, the following ones have been unnecessarily included and can be
removed without any impact on functionality:</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">org.codehaus.stax2_3.2.7.v200906161300.jar
org.jvnet.staxex_1.0.0.v200906161300.jar
org.objectweb.howl_1.0.1.1_v200906161300.jar
net.sf.cglib_2.1.3.v200906161300.jar</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Of the remaining ones, one has previously been approved for use within
Eclipse:</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">org.apache.axiom_1.2.5.v200906161300.jar</pre><br>
<tt>This leaves us with 10 jars for which new CQs would have to be filed 
    
</tt></blockquote><tt>(all of<br>
  
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><pre style="margin: 0em;">them Apache2-licensed, hosted at Apache and relatively small):</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">org.apache.servicemix.document_1.0.0.v200906161300.jar
servicemixcommon_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar
servicemixhttp_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar
servicemixsoap2_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar
servicemixsoap_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar
servicemixutils_1.1.0.v200906161300.jar
org.apache.servicemix.cxf.binding.nmr_4.0.0.v200906161300.jar
org.apache.servicemix.cxf.transport.nmr_4.0.0.v200906161300.jar
org.apache.servicemix.cxf.transport.osgi_4.0.0.v200906161300.jar
org.apache.xbean.xbean.spring_3.5.0.v200906161300.jar</pre><br>
<tt>@IP team: Given your prior experience analyzing ServiceMix source code, 
    
</tt></blockquote><tt>how<br>
  
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><pre style="margin: 0em;">would you rate the risk?</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">2. Third party libs w/ CQ, but version shipped differs from CQ
--------------------------------------------------------------</pre><br>
<tt>org.apache.xbean.xbean.classloader_3.5.0.v200906161300.jar (approved: 
    
</tt></blockquote><tt>3.4.1)<br>
  
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><tt>org.springframework.osgi.io_1.2.0.rc1_v200906161300.jar (approved: 
    
</tt></blockquote><tt>1.0.2)<br>
  
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><tt>org.springframework.osgi.extender_1.2.0.rc1_v200906161300.jar (approved:<br>
1.0.2)<br>
org.springframework.osgi.core_1.2.0.rc1_v200906161300.jar  (approved: 
    
</tt></blockquote><tt>1.0.2)<br>
  
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><tt>org.springframework.core_2.5.6.v200906161300.jar  (approved: 2.5.2)<br>
org.springframework.context_2.5.6.v200906161300.jar (approved: 2.5.2)<br>
org.springframework.beans_2.5.6.v200906161300.jar (approved: 2.5.2)<br>
org.springframework.aop_2.5.6.v200906161300.jar (approved: 2.5.2)<br>
org.apache.cxf.cxf-bundle_2.1.4.v200906161300.jar (approved: 2.1.3)<br>
org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-bindings-jbi_2.1.4.v200906161300.jar (approved: 
    
</tt></blockquote><tt>2.1.3)<br>
  
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><pre style="margin: 0em;">org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-transports-jbi_2.1.4.v200906161300.jar (approved:
2.1.3)</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Of these, for one we would have to file a new CQ requesting a version
change:</pre><br>
<tt>org.apache.xbean.xbean.classloader_3.5.0.v200906161300.jar (approved: 
    
</tt></blockquote><tt>3.4.1)<br>
  
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><tt>In all other cases, we'll be able to switch back to the approved 
    
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</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><tt>We are confident that we would be able to file the missing CQs and 
    
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</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><tt>and regression test a new build containing the correct versionsand with 
    
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</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><pre style="margin: 0em;">the unnecessary jars removed until Friday EOB.</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">@RT PMC, EMO: Please advise us on how to proceed from here.</pre><br>
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Oliver</pre><br>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">If the Galileo build project was tagged
after the release, it would be easy to branch from that tag, remove Swordfish
and run another build.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Kim</font>
<br>
<br>
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Re: Swordfish Release, &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Missing CQs]</font></table>
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<br><tt><font size=2>Option 1. The easiest, would be just to delete the
files from Galileo <br>
site. Once that had percolated to all mirrors then Swordfish would still
<br>
show up in the Categories, but would fail if someone tried to install it.
<br>
Not that great, but easiest and in some ways safest. <br>
<br>
Option 2. Respin. This might work but some projects have changed feature
<br>
versions in their .build files since Galileo was released. Specifically:
<br>
Currently in .build files; <br>
&lt;features id=&quot;org.eclipse.emf.ecoretools.sdk&quot; <br>
version=&quot;0.9.0.v200906221231&quot; repo=&quot;//@repositories.0&quot;&gt;<br>
&lt;features id=&quot;org.eclipse.emf.mint.sdk&quot; version=&quot;0.8.0.v200906161513&quot;
<br>
repo=&quot;//@repositories.0&quot;&gt;<br>
&lt;features id=&quot;org.eclipse.uml2tools.sdk&quot; version=&quot;0.9.0.v200906190654&quot;
<br>
repo=&quot;//@repositories.0&quot;&gt;<br>
But, in Galileo repo: <br>
&lt;features id=&quot;org.eclipse.emf.ecoretools.sdk&quot; <br>
version=&quot;0.9.0.v200906031210&quot; repo=&quot;//@repositories.0&quot;&gt;<br>
&lt;features id=&quot;org.eclipse.emf.mint.sdk&quot; version=&quot;0.8.0.v200906110922&quot;
<br>
repo=&quot;//@repositories.0&quot;&gt;<br>
&lt;features id=&quot;org.eclipse.uml2tools.sdk&quot; version=&quot;0.9.0.v200906031456&quot;
<br>
repo=&quot;//@repositories.0&quot;&gt;<br>
<br>
Are these significant? Does anyone care? Are they used anywhere, such as
<br>
in EPP packages? Would the old versions still work? <br>
<br>
Option 3. Regenerate meta-data only, using what's on the Galileo site (or,
<br>
the version of the .build files tagged RC5a) minus the Swordfish <br>
contributions and features. I've asked Thomas to comment on what this <br>
would take in his builder. <br>
<br>
Anyone have preferences? Any other ideas? <br>
<br>
I've removed Swordfish from the Galileo contributions and am trying a <br>
respin, to see if it works at all, and if it does work, we might be able
<br>
to get a more exact understanding of what's changed and what hasn't. <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
From:<br>
Wayne Beaton &lt;wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx&gt;<br>
To:<br>
&quot;eclipse.org-planning-council&quot; &lt;eclipse.org-planning-council@xxxxxxxxxxx&gt;<br>
Date:<br>
06/29/2009 10:56 PM<br>
Subject:<br>
[eclipse.org-planning-council] [Fwd: Re: Swordfish Release, &nbsp; &nbsp;
Missing <br>
CQs]<br>
Sent by:<br>
eclipse.org-planning-council-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx<br>
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<br>
I am resending as my original note was put into a holding pattern...<br>
<br>
-------- Original Message --------<br>
<br>
Hello Planning Council.<br>
<br>
It has been determined that the Swordfish project has included several
<br>
third party libraries in their downloads, their update site, and the <br>
Galileo Update site that have not been taken through the Eclipse IP Due
<br>
Diligence process. The full list of problems is copied below.<br>
<br>
I have been informed by the IP Team that they cannot reasonably complete
<br>
the ten reviews suggested by Oliver by Friday.<br>
<br>
This leaves us with an IP exposure in the Galileo Update site that we <br>
need to mitigate. I believe that the Galileo update site will need to be
<br>
respun, excluding Swordfish. I understand that this is no simple chore
<br>
and that it will require effort from many of us to complete. I assume,
<br>
for example, that the testing effort will be non-trivial.<br>
<br>
I am seeking your guidance on how we can proceed.<br>
<br>
I further request that the Planning Council initiate a conversation with
<br>
Swordfish on how best to move forward once the IP issues have been <br>
resolved.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
Wayne<br>
<br>
<br>
Barb Cochrane wrote:<br>
&gt; Hi Oliver,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; It's hard for us to predict whether we're going to be able to clarify
IP <br>
<br>
for<br>
&gt; any given package. <br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; The best thing to do would be to start entering the CQs (attaching
just <br>
the<br>
&gt; jars you require to each) so we can start to assess the packages on
a <br>
case<br>
&gt; by case basis. <br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Thanks!<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Barb<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
&gt; From: Oliver Wolf [mailto:oliver.wolf@xxxxxxxxx] <br>
&gt; Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 12:05 PM<br>
&gt; To: Runtime Project PMC mailing list; Wayne Beaton; Eclipse Management<br>
&gt; Organization; emo-ip-team@xxxxxxxxxxx<br>
&gt; Cc: Zsolt Beothy-Elo; Dietmar Wolz; J&#xFC;rgen Kindler<br>
&gt; Subject: Swordfish Release, Missing CQs<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Dear RT PMC members, EMO, and IP team,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; The Swordfish project has finalized the in-depth analysis of missing
or <br>
not<br>
&gt; matching CQs. These are our findings:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; 1. Third party libs w/o CQ<br>
&gt; --------------------------<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; org.apache.servicemix.document_1.0.0.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt; servicemixcommon_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt; servicemixhttp_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt; servicemixsoap2_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt; servicemixsoap_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt; servicemixutils_1.1.0.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt; net.sf.cglib_2.1.3.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt; org.apache.axiom_1.2.5.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt; org.apache.servicemix.cxf.binding.nmr_4.0.0.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt; org.apache.servicemix.cxf.transport.nmr_4.0.0.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt; org.apache.servicemix.cxf.transport.osgi_4.0.0.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt; org.apache.xbean.xbean.spring_3.5.0.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt; org.codehaus.stax2_3.2.7.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt; org.jvnet.staxex_1.0.0.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt; org.objectweb.howl_1.0.1.1_v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Of these, the following ones have been unnecessarily included and
can be<br>
&gt; removed without any impact on functionality:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; org.codehaus.stax2_3.2.7.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt; org.jvnet.staxex_1.0.0.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt; org.objectweb.howl_1.0.1.1_v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt; net.sf.cglib_2.1.3.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Of the remaining ones, one has previously been approved for use within<br>
&gt; Eclipse:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; org.apache.axiom_1.2.5.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; This leaves us with 10 jars for which new CQs would have to be filed
<br>
(all of<br>
&gt; them Apache2-licensed, hosted at Apache and relatively small):<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; org.apache.servicemix.document_1.0.0.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt; servicemixcommon_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt; servicemixhttp_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt; servicemixsoap2_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt; servicemixsoap_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt; servicemixutils_1.1.0.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt; org.apache.servicemix.cxf.binding.nmr_4.0.0.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt; org.apache.servicemix.cxf.transport.nmr_4.0.0.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt; org.apache.servicemix.cxf.transport.osgi_4.0.0.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt; org.apache.xbean.xbean.spring_3.5.0.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; @IP team: Given your prior experience analyzing ServiceMix source
code, <br>
how<br>
&gt; would you rate the risk?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; 2. Third party libs w/ CQ, but version shipped differs from CQ<br>
&gt; --------------------------------------------------------------<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; org.apache.xbean.xbean.classloader_3.5.0.v200906161300.jar (approved:
<br>
3.4.1)<br>
&gt; org.springframework.osgi.io_1.2.0.rc1_v200906161300.jar (approved:
<br>
1.0.2)<br>
&gt; org.springframework.osgi.extender_1.2.0.rc1_v200906161300.jar (approved:<br>
&gt; 1.0.2)<br>
&gt; org.springframework.osgi.core_1.2.0.rc1_v200906161300.jar &nbsp;(approved:
<br>
1.0.2)<br>
&gt; org.springframework.core_2.5.6.v200906161300.jar &nbsp;(approved:
2.5.2)<br>
&gt; org.springframework.context_2.5.6.v200906161300.jar (approved: 2.5.2)<br>
&gt; org.springframework.beans_2.5.6.v200906161300.jar (approved: 2.5.2)<br>
&gt; org.springframework.aop_2.5.6.v200906161300.jar (approved: 2.5.2)<br>
&gt; org.apache.cxf.cxf-bundle_2.1.4.v200906161300.jar (approved: 2.1.3)<br>
&gt; org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-bindings-jbi_2.1.4.v200906161300.jar (approved:
<br>
2.1.3)<br>
&gt; org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-transports-jbi_2.1.4.v200906161300.jar (approved:<br>
&gt; 2.1.3)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Of these, for one we would have to file a new CQ requesting a version<br>
&gt; change:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; org.apache.xbean.xbean.classloader_3.5.0.v200906161300.jar (approved:
<br>
3.4.1)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; In all other cases, we'll be able to switch back to the approved <br>
version.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; We are confident that we would be able to file the missing CQs and
<br>
create<br>
&gt; and regression test a new build containing the correct versionsand
with <br>
all<br>
&gt; the unnecessary jars removed until Friday EOB.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; @RT PMC, EMO: Please advise us on how to proceed from here.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Best Regards,<br>
&gt; Oliver<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; <br>
<br>
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		<title>Re: [eclipse.org-planning-council] [Fwd: Re: Swordfish Release, 	Missing CQs]</title>
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		<description>The good news is that none of the listed libraries is included in one of the packages. I checked *all* packages and could not find any of the following:&amp;#xA0;net.sf.cglib_2.1.3.v200906161300*: No such file or directory &amp;#xA0;org.apache.axiom_1.2.5.v200906161300*: No...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[The good news is that none of the listed libraries is included in one of the packages. I checked *all* packages and could not find any of the following:<br><br>&#xA0;net.sf.cglib_2.1.3.v200906161300*: No such file or directory<br>
&#xA0;org.apache.axiom_1.2.5.v200906161300*: No such file or directory<br>&#xA0;org.apache.cxf.cxf-bundle_2.1.4.v200906161300*: No such file or directory<br>&#xA0;org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-bindings-jbi_2.1.4.v200906161300*: No such file or directory<br>
&#xA0;org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-transports-jbi_2.1.4.v200906161300*: No such file or directory<br>&#xA0;org.apache.servicemix.cxf.binding.nmr_4.0.0.v200906161300*: No such file or directory<br>&#xA0;org.apache.servicemix.cxf.transport.nmr_4.0.0.v200906161300*: No such file or directory<br>
&#xA0;org.apache.servicemix.cxf.transport.osgi_4.0.0.v200906161300*: No such file or directory<br>&#xA0;org.apache.servicemix.document_1.0.0.v200906161300*: No such file or directory<br>&#xA0;org.apache.xbean.xbean.classloader_3.5.0.v200906161300*: No such file or directory<br>
&#xA0;org.apache.xbean.xbean.spring_3.5.0.v200906161300*: No such file or directory<br>&#xA0;org.codehaus.stax2_3.2.7.v200906161300*: No such file or directory<br>&#xA0;org.jvnet.staxex_1.0.0.v200906161300*: No such file or directory<br>
&#xA0;org.jvnet.staxex_1.0.0.v200906161300*: No such file or directory<br>&#xA0;org.objectweb.howl_1.0.1.1_v200906161300*: No such file or directory<br>&#xA0;org.springframework.aop_2.5.6.v200906161300*: No such file or directory<br>&#xA0;org.springframework.beans_2.5.6.v200906161300*: No such file or directory<br>
&#xA0;org.springframework.context_2.5.6.v200906161300*: No such file or directory<br>&#xA0;org.springframework.core_2.5.6.v200906161300*: No such file or directory<br>&#xA0;org.springframework.osgi.core_1.2.0.rc1_v200906161300*: No such file or directory<br>
&#xA0;org.springframework.osgi.extender_1.2.0.rc1_v200906161300*: No such file or directory<br>&#xA0;org.springframework.osgi.io_1.2.0.rc1_v200906161300*: No such file or directory<br>&#xA0;servicemixcommon_2009.1.0.v200906161300*: No such file or directory<br>
&#xA0;servicemixhttp_2009.1.0.v200906161300*: No such file or directory<br>&#xA0;servicemixsoap_2009.1.0.v200906161300*: No such file or directory<br>&#xA0;servicemixsoap2_2009.1.0.v200906161300*: No such file or directory<br>&#xA0;servicemixutils_1.1.0.v200906161300*: No such file or directory<br>
<br>Is there a timeline given by EMO and/or the IP team? I assume it is ASAP (possible == immediately) and given the fact that we need to remove the libraries from the download servers anyway I would vote for option 1. We can (should) still work on better solutions in the meantime.<br>
<br>Regards, Markus<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2009/6/30 David M Williams <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:david_williams@xxxxxxxxxx">david_williams@xxxxxxxxxx</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Option 1. The easiest, would be just to delete the files from Galileo<br>
site. Once that had percolated to all mirrors then Swordfish would still<br>
show up in the Categories, but would fail if someone tried to install it.<br>
Not that great, but easiest and in some ways safest.<br>
<br>
Option 2. Respin. This might work but some projects have changed feature<br>
versions in their .build files since Galileo was released. Specifically:<br>
Currently in .build files;<br>
&lt;features id=&quot;org.eclipse.emf.ecoretools.sdk&quot;<br>
version=&quot;0.9.0.v200906221231&quot; repo=&quot;//@repositories.0&quot;&gt;<br>
&lt;features id=&quot;org.eclipse.emf.mint.sdk&quot; version=&quot;0.8.0.v200906161513&quot;<br>
repo=&quot;//@repositories.0&quot;&gt;<br>
&lt;features id=&quot;org.eclipse.uml2tools.sdk&quot; version=&quot;0.9.0.v200906190654&quot;<br>
repo=&quot;//@repositories.0&quot;&gt;<br>
But, in Galileo repo:<br>
&lt;features id=&quot;org.eclipse.emf.ecoretools.sdk&quot;<br>
version=&quot;0.9.0.v200906031210&quot; repo=&quot;//@repositories.0&quot;&gt;<br>
&lt;features id=&quot;org.eclipse.emf.mint.sdk&quot; version=&quot;0.8.0.v200906110922&quot;<br>
repo=&quot;//@repositories.0&quot;&gt;<br>
&lt;features id=&quot;org.eclipse.uml2tools.sdk&quot; version=&quot;0.9.0.v200906031456&quot;<br>
repo=&quot;//@repositories.0&quot;&gt;<br>
<br>
Are these significant? Does anyone care? Are they used anywhere, such as<br>
in EPP packages? Would the old versions still work?<br>
<br>
Option 3. Regenerate meta-data only, using what&#39;s on the Galileo site (or,<br>
the version of the .build files tagged RC5a) minus the Swordfish<br>
contributions and features. I&#39;ve asked Thomas to comment on what this<br>
would take in his builder.<br>
<br>
Anyone have preferences? Any other ideas?<br>
<br>
I&#39;ve removed Swordfish from the Galileo contributions and am trying a<br>
respin, to see if it works at all, and if it does work, we might be able<br>
to get a more exact understanding of what&#39;s changed and what hasn&#39;t.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
From:<br>
Wayne Beaton &lt;<a href="mailto:wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx">wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx</a>&gt;<br>
To:<br>
&quot;eclipse.org-planning-council&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:eclipse.org-planning-council@xxxxxxxxxxx">eclipse.org-planning-council@xxxxxxxxxxx</a>&gt;<br>
Date:<br>
06/29/2009 10:56 PM<br>
Subject:<br>
[eclipse.org-planning-council] [Fwd: Re: Swordfish Release, &#xA0; &#xA0; Missing<br>
CQs]<br>
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<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
<br>
<br>
I am resending as my original note was put into a holding pattern...<br>
<br>
-------- Original Message --------<br>
<br>
Hello Planning Council.<br>
<br>
It has been determined that the Swordfish project has included several<br>
third party libraries in their downloads, their update site, and the<br>
Galileo Update site that have not been taken through the Eclipse IP Due<br>
Diligence process. The full list of problems is copied below.<br>
<br>
I have been informed by the IP Team that they cannot reasonably complete<br>
the ten reviews suggested by Oliver by Friday.<br>
<br>
This leaves us with an IP exposure in the Galileo Update site that we<br>
need to mitigate. I believe that the Galileo update site will need to be<br>
respun, excluding Swordfish. I understand that this is no simple chore<br>
and that it will require effort from many of us to complete. I assume,<br>
for example, that the testing effort will be non-trivial.<br>
<br>
I am seeking your guidance on how we can proceed.<br>
<br>
I further request that the Planning Council initiate a conversation with<br>
Swordfish on how best to move forward once the IP issues have been<br>
resolved.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
Wayne<br>
<br>
<br>
Barb Cochrane wrote:<br>
&gt; Hi Oliver,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; It&#39;s hard for us to predict whether we&#39;re going to be able to clarify IP<br>
<br>
for<br>
&gt; any given package.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; The best thing to do would be to start entering the CQs (attaching just<br>
the<br>
&gt; jars you require to each) so we can start to assess the packages on a<br>
case<br>
&gt; by case basis.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Thanks!<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Barb<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
&gt; From: Oliver Wolf [mailto:<a href="mailto:oliver.wolf@xxxxxxxxx">oliver.wolf@xxxxxxxxx</a>]<br>
&gt; Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 12:05 PM<br>
&gt; To: Runtime Project PMC mailing list; Wayne Beaton; Eclipse Management<br>
&gt; Organization; <a href="mailto:emo-ip-team@xxxxxxxxxxx">emo-ip-team@xxxxxxxxxxx</a><br>
&gt; Cc: Zsolt Beothy-Elo; Dietmar Wolz; J&#xFC;rgen Kindler<br>
&gt; Subject: Swordfish Release, Missing CQs<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Dear RT PMC members, EMO, and IP team,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; The Swordfish project has finalized the in-depth analysis of missing or<br>
not<br>
&gt; matching CQs. These are our findings:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; 1. Third party libs w/o CQ<br>
&gt; --------------------------<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; org.apache.servicemix.document_1.0.0.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt; servicemixcommon_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt; servicemixhttp_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt; servicemixsoap2_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt; servicemixsoap_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt; servicemixutils_1.1.0.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt; net.sf.cglib_2.1.3.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt; org.apache.axiom_1.2.5.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt; org.apache.servicemix.cxf.binding.nmr_4.0.0.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt; org.apache.servicemix.cxf.transport.nmr_4.0.0.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt; org.apache.servicemix.cxf.transport.osgi_4.0.0.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt; org.apache.xbean.xbean.spring_3.5.0.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt; org.codehaus.stax2_3.2.7.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt; org.jvnet.staxex_1.0.0.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt; org.objectweb.howl_1.0.1.1_v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Of these, the following ones have been unnecessarily included and can be<br>
&gt; removed without any impact on functionality:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; org.codehaus.stax2_3.2.7.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt; org.jvnet.staxex_1.0.0.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt; org.objectweb.howl_1.0.1.1_v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt; net.sf.cglib_2.1.3.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Of the remaining ones, one has previously been approved for use within<br>
&gt; Eclipse:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; org.apache.axiom_1.2.5.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; This leaves us with 10 jars for which new CQs would have to be filed<br>
(all of<br>
&gt; them Apache2-licensed, hosted at Apache and relatively small):<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; org.apache.servicemix.document_1.0.0.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt; servicemixcommon_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt; servicemixhttp_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt; servicemixsoap2_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt; servicemixsoap_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt; servicemixutils_1.1.0.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt; org.apache.servicemix.cxf.binding.nmr_4.0.0.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt; org.apache.servicemix.cxf.transport.nmr_4.0.0.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt; org.apache.servicemix.cxf.transport.osgi_4.0.0.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt; org.apache.xbean.xbean.spring_3.5.0.v200906161300.jar<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; @IP team: Given your prior experience analyzing ServiceMix source code,<br>
how<br>
&gt; would you rate the risk?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; 2. Third party libs w/ CQ, but version shipped differs from CQ<br>
&gt; --------------------------------------------------------------<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; org.apache.xbean.xbean.classloader_3.5.0.v200906161300.jar (approved:<br>
3.4.1)<br>
&gt; org.springframework.osgi.io_1.2.0.rc1_v200906161300.jar (approved:<br>
1.0.2)<br>
&gt; org.springframework.osgi.extender_1.2.0.rc1_v200906161300.jar (approved:<br>
&gt; 1.0.2)<br>
&gt; org.springframework.osgi.core_1.2.0.rc1_v200906161300.jar &#xA0;(approved:<br>
1.0.2)<br>
&gt; org.springframework.core_2.5.6.v200906161300.jar &#xA0;(approved: 2.5.2)<br>
&gt; org.springframework.context_2.5.6.v200906161300.jar (approved: 2.5.2)<br>
&gt; org.springframework.beans_2.5.6.v200906161300.jar (approved: 2.5.2)<br>
&gt; org.springframework.aop_2.5.6.v200906161300.jar (approved: 2.5.2)<br>
&gt; org.apache.cxf.cxf-bundle_2.1.4.v200906161300.jar (approved: 2.1.3)<br>
&gt; org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-bindings-jbi_2.1.4.v200906161300.jar (approved:<br>
2.1.3)<br>
&gt; org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-transports-jbi_2.1.4.v200906161300.jar (approved:<br>
&gt; 2.1.3)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Of these, for one we would have to file a new CQ requesting a version<br>
&gt; change:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; org.apache.xbean.xbean.classloader_3.5.0.v200906161300.jar (approved:<br>
3.4.1)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; In all other cases, we&#39;ll be able to switch back to the approved<br>
version.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; We are confident that we would be able to file the missing CQs and<br>
create<br>
&gt; and regression test a new build containing the correct versionsand with<br>
all<br>
&gt; the unnecessary jars removed until Friday EOB.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; @RT PMC, EMO: Please advise us on how to proceed from here.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Best Regards,<br>
&gt; Oliver<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
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		<title>Re: [eclipse.org-planning-council] [Fwd: Re: Swordfish Release,	Missing CQs]</title>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<pre>Option 1. The easiest, would be just to delete the files from Galileo 
site. Once that had percolated to all mirrors then Swordfish would still 
show up in the Categories, but would fail if someone tried to install it. 
Not that great, but easiest and in some ways safest. 

Option 2. Respin. This might work but some projects have changed feature 
versions in their .build files since Galileo was released. Specifically: 
Currently in .build files; 
&lt;features id=&quot;org.eclipse.emf.ecoretools.sdk&quot; 
version=&quot;0.9.0.v200906221231&quot; repo=&quot;//@repositories.0&quot;&gt;
&lt;features id=&quot;org.eclipse.emf.mint.sdk&quot; version=&quot;0.8.0.v200906161513&quot; 
repo=&quot;//@repositories.0&quot;&gt;
&lt;features id=&quot;org.eclipse.uml2tools.sdk&quot; version=&quot;0.9.0.v200906190654&quot; 
repo=&quot;//@repositories.0&quot;&gt;
But, in Galileo repo: 
&lt;features id=&quot;org.eclipse.emf.ecoretools.sdk&quot; 
version=&quot;0.9.0.v200906031210&quot; repo=&quot;//@repositories.0&quot;&gt;
&lt;features id=&quot;org.eclipse.emf.mint.sdk&quot; version=&quot;0.8.0.v200906110922&quot; 
repo=&quot;//@repositories.0&quot;&gt;
&lt;features id=&quot;org.eclipse.uml2tools.sdk&quot; version=&quot;0.9.0.v200906031456&quot; 
repo=&quot;//@repositories.0&quot;&gt;

Are these significant? Does anyone care? Are they used anywhere, such as 
in EPP packages? Would the old versions still work? 

Option 3. Regenerate meta-data only, using what's on the Galileo site (or, 
the version of the .build files tagged RC5a) minus the Swordfish 
contributions and features. I've asked Thomas to comment on what this 
would take in his builder. 

Anyone have preferences? Any other ideas? 

I've removed Swordfish from the Galileo contributions and am trying a 
respin, to see if it works at all, and if it does work, we might be able 
to get a more exact understanding of what's changed and what hasn't. 








From:
Wayne Beaton &lt;wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx&gt;
To:
&quot;eclipse.org-planning-council&quot; &lt;eclipse.org-planning-council@xxxxxxxxxxx&gt;
Date:
06/29/2009 10:56 PM
Subject:
[eclipse.org-planning-council] [Fwd: Re: Swordfish Release,     Missing 
CQs]
Sent by:
eclipse.org-planning-council-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx



I am resending as my original note was put into a holding pattern...

-------- Original Message --------

Hello Planning Council.

It has been determined that the Swordfish project has included several 
third party libraries in their downloads, their update site, and the 
Galileo Update site that have not been taken through the Eclipse IP Due 
Diligence process. The full list of problems is copied below.

I have been informed by the IP Team that they cannot reasonably complete 
the ten reviews suggested by Oliver by Friday.

This leaves us with an IP exposure in the Galileo Update site that we 
need to mitigate. I believe that the Galileo update site will need to be 
respun, excluding Swordfish. I understand that this is no simple chore 
and that it will require effort from many of us to complete. I assume, 
for example, that the testing effort will be non-trivial.

I am seeking your guidance on how we can proceed.

I further request that the Planning Council initiate a conversation with 
Swordfish on how best to move forward once the IP issues have been 
resolved.

Thanks,

Wayne


Barb Cochrane wrote:
&gt; Hi Oliver,
&gt;
&gt; It's hard for us to predict whether we're going to be able to clarify IP 

for
&gt; any given package. 
&gt;
&gt; The best thing to do would be to start entering the CQs (attaching just 
the
&gt; jars you require to each) so we can start to assess the packages on a 
case
&gt; by case basis. 
&gt;
&gt; Thanks!
&gt;
&gt; Barb
&gt;
&gt; -----Original Message-----
&gt; From: Oliver Wolf [<a  href="mailto:oliver.wolf@xxxxxxxxx">mailto:oliver.wolf@xxxxxxxxx</a>] 
&gt; Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 12:05 PM
&gt; To: Runtime Project PMC mailing list; Wayne Beaton; Eclipse Management
&gt; Organization; emo-ip-team@xxxxxxxxxxx
&gt; Cc: Zsolt Beothy-Elo; Dietmar Wolz; J&#xFC;rgen Kindler
&gt; Subject: Swordfish Release, Missing CQs
&gt;
&gt; Dear RT PMC members, EMO, and IP team,
&gt;
&gt; The Swordfish project has finalized the in-depth analysis of missing or 
not
&gt; matching CQs. These are our findings:
&gt;
&gt; 1. Third party libs w/o CQ
&gt; --------------------------
&gt;
&gt; org.apache.servicemix.document_1.0.0.v200906161300.jar
&gt; servicemixcommon_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar
&gt; servicemixhttp_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar
&gt; servicemixsoap2_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar
&gt; servicemixsoap_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar
&gt; servicemixutils_1.1.0.v200906161300.jar
&gt; net.sf.cglib_2.1.3.v200906161300.jar
&gt; org.apache.axiom_1.2.5.v200906161300.jar
&gt; org.apache.servicemix.cxf.binding.nmr_4.0.0.v200906161300.jar
&gt; org.apache.servicemix.cxf.transport.nmr_4.0.0.v200906161300.jar
&gt; org.apache.servicemix.cxf.transport.osgi_4.0.0.v200906161300.jar
&gt; org.apache.xbean.xbean.spring_3.5.0.v200906161300.jar
&gt; org.codehaus.stax2_3.2.7.v200906161300.jar
&gt; org.jvnet.staxex_1.0.0.v200906161300.jar
&gt; org.objectweb.howl_1.0.1.1_v200906161300.jar
&gt;
&gt; Of these, the following ones have been unnecessarily included and can be
&gt; removed without any impact on functionality:
&gt;
&gt; org.codehaus.stax2_3.2.7.v200906161300.jar
&gt; org.jvnet.staxex_1.0.0.v200906161300.jar
&gt; org.objectweb.howl_1.0.1.1_v200906161300.jar
&gt; net.sf.cglib_2.1.3.v200906161300.jar
&gt;
&gt; Of the remaining ones, one has previously been approved for use within
&gt; Eclipse:
&gt;
&gt; org.apache.axiom_1.2.5.v200906161300.jar
&gt;
&gt; This leaves us with 10 jars for which new CQs would have to be filed 
(all of
&gt; them Apache2-licensed, hosted at Apache and relatively small):
&gt;
&gt; org.apache.servicemix.document_1.0.0.v200906161300.jar
&gt; servicemixcommon_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar
&gt; servicemixhttp_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar
&gt; servicemixsoap2_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar
&gt; servicemixsoap_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar
&gt; servicemixutils_1.1.0.v200906161300.jar
&gt; org.apache.servicemix.cxf.binding.nmr_4.0.0.v200906161300.jar
&gt; org.apache.servicemix.cxf.transport.nmr_4.0.0.v200906161300.jar
&gt; org.apache.servicemix.cxf.transport.osgi_4.0.0.v200906161300.jar
&gt; org.apache.xbean.xbean.spring_3.5.0.v200906161300.jar
&gt;
&gt; @IP team: Given your prior experience analyzing ServiceMix source code, 
how
&gt; would you rate the risk?
&gt;
&gt; 2. Third party libs w/ CQ, but version shipped differs from CQ
&gt; --------------------------------------------------------------
&gt;
&gt; org.apache.xbean.xbean.classloader_3.5.0.v200906161300.jar (approved: 
3.4.1)
&gt; org.springframework.osgi.io_1.2.0.rc1_v200906161300.jar (approved: 
1.0.2)
&gt; org.springframework.osgi.extender_1.2.0.rc1_v200906161300.jar (approved:
&gt; 1.0.2)
&gt; org.springframework.osgi.core_1.2.0.rc1_v200906161300.jar  (approved: 
1.0.2)
&gt; org.springframework.core_2.5.6.v200906161300.jar  (approved: 2.5.2)
&gt; org.springframework.context_2.5.6.v200906161300.jar (approved: 2.5.2)
&gt; org.springframework.beans_2.5.6.v200906161300.jar (approved: 2.5.2)
&gt; org.springframework.aop_2.5.6.v200906161300.jar (approved: 2.5.2)
&gt; org.apache.cxf.cxf-bundle_2.1.4.v200906161300.jar (approved: 2.1.3)
&gt; org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-bindings-jbi_2.1.4.v200906161300.jar (approved: 
2.1.3)
&gt; org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-transports-jbi_2.1.4.v200906161300.jar (approved:
&gt; 2.1.3)
&gt;
&gt; Of these, for one we would have to file a new CQ requesting a version
&gt; change:
&gt;
&gt; org.apache.xbean.xbean.classloader_3.5.0.v200906161300.jar (approved: 
3.4.1)
&gt;
&gt; In all other cases, we'll be able to switch back to the approved 
version.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; We are confident that we would be able to file the missing CQs and 
create
&gt; and regression test a new build containing the correct versionsand with 
all
&gt; the unnecessary jars removed until Friday EOB.
&gt;
&gt; @RT PMC, EMO: Please advise us on how to proceed from here.
&gt;
&gt; Best Regards,
&gt; Oliver
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; 


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		<title>[eclipse.org-planning-council] [Fwd: Re: Swordfish Release,	Missing CQs]</title>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<pre style="margin: 0em;">I am resending as my original note was put into a holding pattern...</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">-------- Original Message --------</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Hello Planning Council.</pre><br>
<tt>It has been determined that the Swordfish project has included several 
third party libraries in their downloads, their update site, and the 
Galileo Update site that have not been taken through the Eclipse IP Due 
Diligence process. The full list of problems is copied below.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>I have been informed by the IP Team that they cannot reasonably complete 
the ten reviews suggested by Oliver by Friday.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>This leaves us with an IP exposure in the Galileo Update site that we 
need to mitigate. I believe that the Galileo update site will need to be 
respun, excluding Swordfish. I understand that this is no simple chore 
and that it will require effort from many of us to complete. I assume, 
for example, that the testing effort will be non-trivial.</tt><br>
<br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">I am seeking your guidance on how we can proceed.</pre><br>
<tt>I further request that the Planning Council initiate a conversation with 
Swordfish on how best to move forward once the IP issues have been 
resolved.</tt><br>
<br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Thanks,</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Wayne</pre><br>
<tt><br>Barb Cochrane wrote:
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><pre style="margin: 0em;">Hi Oliver,</pre><br>
<tt>It's hard for us to predict whether we're going to be able to clarify IP 
</tt></blockquote><tt>for
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><tt>any given package. </tt><br>
<br>
<tt>The best thing to do would be to start entering the CQs (attaching just 
</tt></blockquote><tt>the
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><tt>jars you require to each) so we can start to assess the packages on a 
</tt></blockquote><tt>case
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><tt>by case basis. </tt><br>
<br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Thanks!</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Barb</pre><br>
<tt>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Oliver Wolf [<a  href="mailto:oliver.wolf@xxxxxxxxx">mailto:oliver.wolf@xxxxxxxxx</a>] 
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 12:05 PM<br>
To: Runtime Project PMC mailing list; Wayne Beaton; Eclipse Management<br>
Organization; emo-ip-team@xxxxxxxxxxx<br>
Cc: Zsolt Beothy-Elo; Dietmar Wolz; J&#xFC;rgen Kindler<br>
Subject: Swordfish Release, Missing CQs</tt><br>
<br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Dear RT PMC members, EMO, and IP team,</pre><br>
<tt>The Swordfish project has finalized the in-depth analysis of missing or 
</tt></blockquote><tt>not
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><pre style="margin: 0em;">matching CQs. These are our findings:</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">1. Third party libs w/o CQ
--------------------------</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">org.apache.servicemix.document_1.0.0.v200906161300.jar
servicemixcommon_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar
servicemixhttp_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar
servicemixsoap2_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar
servicemixsoap_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar
servicemixutils_1.1.0.v200906161300.jar
net.sf.cglib_2.1.3.v200906161300.jar
org.apache.axiom_1.2.5.v200906161300.jar
org.apache.servicemix.cxf.binding.nmr_4.0.0.v200906161300.jar
org.apache.servicemix.cxf.transport.nmr_4.0.0.v200906161300.jar
org.apache.servicemix.cxf.transport.osgi_4.0.0.v200906161300.jar
org.apache.xbean.xbean.spring_3.5.0.v200906161300.jar
org.codehaus.stax2_3.2.7.v200906161300.jar
org.jvnet.staxex_1.0.0.v200906161300.jar
org.objectweb.howl_1.0.1.1_v200906161300.jar</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Of these, the following ones have been unnecessarily included and can be
removed without any impact on functionality:</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">org.codehaus.stax2_3.2.7.v200906161300.jar
org.jvnet.staxex_1.0.0.v200906161300.jar
org.objectweb.howl_1.0.1.1_v200906161300.jar
net.sf.cglib_2.1.3.v200906161300.jar</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Of the remaining ones, one has previously been approved for use within
Eclipse:</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">org.apache.axiom_1.2.5.v200906161300.jar</pre><br>
<tt>This leaves us with 10 jars for which new CQs would have to be filed 
</tt></blockquote><tt>(all of
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><pre style="margin: 0em;">them Apache2-licensed, hosted at Apache and relatively small):</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">org.apache.servicemix.document_1.0.0.v200906161300.jar
servicemixcommon_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar
servicemixhttp_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar
servicemixsoap2_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar
servicemixsoap_2009.1.0.v200906161300.jar
servicemixutils_1.1.0.v200906161300.jar
org.apache.servicemix.cxf.binding.nmr_4.0.0.v200906161300.jar
org.apache.servicemix.cxf.transport.nmr_4.0.0.v200906161300.jar
org.apache.servicemix.cxf.transport.osgi_4.0.0.v200906161300.jar
org.apache.xbean.xbean.spring_3.5.0.v200906161300.jar</pre><br>
<tt>@IP team: Given your prior experience analyzing ServiceMix source code, 
</tt></blockquote><tt>how
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><pre style="margin: 0em;">would you rate the risk?</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">2. Third party libs w/ CQ, but version shipped differs from CQ
--------------------------------------------------------------</pre><br>
<tt>org.apache.xbean.xbean.classloader_3.5.0.v200906161300.jar (approved: 
</tt></blockquote><tt>3.4.1)
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><tt>org.springframework.osgi.io_1.2.0.rc1_v200906161300.jar (approved: 
</tt></blockquote><tt>1.0.2)
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><tt>org.springframework.osgi.extender_1.2.0.rc1_v200906161300.jar (approved:<br>
1.0.2)<br>
org.springframework.osgi.core_1.2.0.rc1_v200906161300.jar  (approved: 
</tt></blockquote><tt>1.0.2)
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><tt>org.springframework.core_2.5.6.v200906161300.jar  (approved: 2.5.2)<br>
org.springframework.context_2.5.6.v200906161300.jar (approved: 2.5.2)<br>
org.springframework.beans_2.5.6.v200906161300.jar (approved: 2.5.2)<br>
org.springframework.aop_2.5.6.v200906161300.jar (approved: 2.5.2)<br>
org.apache.cxf.cxf-bundle_2.1.4.v200906161300.jar (approved: 2.1.3)<br>
org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-bindings-jbi_2.1.4.v200906161300.jar (approved: 
</tt></blockquote><tt>2.1.3)
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><pre style="margin: 0em;">org.apache.cxf.cxf-rt-transports-jbi_2.1.4.v200906161300.jar (approved:
2.1.3)</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Of these, for one we would have to file a new CQ requesting a version
change:</pre><br>
<tt>org.apache.xbean.xbean.classloader_3.5.0.v200906161300.jar (approved: 
</tt></blockquote><tt>3.4.1)
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><tt><br>In all other cases, we'll be able to switch back to the approved 
</tt></blockquote><tt>version.
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><pre style="margin: 0em;"><br></pre><br>
<tt>We are confident that we would be able to file the missing CQs and 
</tt></blockquote><tt>create
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><tt>and regression test a new build containing the correct versionsand with 
</tt></blockquote><tt>all
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><pre style="margin: 0em;">the unnecessary jars removed until Friday EOB.</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">@RT PMC, EMO: Please advise us on how to proceed from here.</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Best Regards,
Oliver</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;"><br></pre><br>
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		<link>http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/eclipse.org-planning-council/msg01630.html</link>
		<description> Woo Hoo!   Congrats to everyone for doing it yet again. Too many people were involved for me to thank everyone individually, but this really is an outstanding day for Eclipse!   Mike Milinkovich Office: +1.613.224.9461 x228 Mobile: +1.613.220.3223 mike.mi...</description>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Woo Hoo!<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Congrats to everyone for doing it yet again. Too many people
were involved for me to thank everyone individually, but this really is an
outstanding day for Eclipse! <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Mike Milinkovich<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Office: +1.613.224.9461 x228<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Mobile: +1.613.220.3223<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:mike.milinkovich@xxxxxxxxxxx"><span
style='color:blue'>mike.milinkovich@xxxxxxxxxxx</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> epp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:epp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Markus Knauer<br>
<b>Sent:</b> June-22-09 5:28 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> EPP Developer Mailing List; Eclipse Planning Council<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [epp-dev] EPP packages - go<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>Hi *,<br>
<br>
I am happy (and proud!) to tell you that all the final RC5 EPP packages got
their &quot;+1&quot; from their package maintainers:<br>
<br>
&nbsp; <a
href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/EPP/Galileo_Packages/Sign_Off#EPP_Galileo_RC5">http://wiki.eclipse.org/EPP/Galileo_Packages/Sign_Off#EPP_Galileo_RC5</a><br>
<br>
Unless there is no stop-ship bug found this will be the release build for
Wednesday.<br>
<br>
Thanks a lot,<br>
Markus<o:p></o:p></p>

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		<title>[eclipse.org-planning-council] EPP packages - go</title>
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		<description>Hi *,I am happy (and proud!) to tell you that all the final RC5 EPP packages got their &amp;quot;+1&amp;quot; from their package maintainers:&amp;#xA0; http://wiki.eclipse.org/EPP/Galileo_Packages/Sign_Off#EPP_Galileo_RC5 Unless there is no stop-ship bug found this will be the relea...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi *,<br><br>I am happy (and proud!) to tell you that all the final RC5 EPP packages got their &quot;+1&quot; from their package maintainers:<br><br>&#xA0; <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/EPP/Galileo_Packages/Sign_Off#EPP_Galileo_RC5">http://wiki.eclipse.org/EPP/Galileo_Packages/Sign_Off#EPP_Galileo_RC5</a><br>
<br>Unless there is no stop-ship bug found this will be the release build for Wednesday.<br><br>Thanks a lot,<br>Markus<br>
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		<description>Please check if I captured everyone's comments from today's meeting. http://wiki.eclipse.org/Planning_Council/Galileo_postmortem Thanks all. </description>
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<a  href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/Planning_Council/Galileo_postmortem">http://wiki.eclipse.org/Planning_Council/Galileo_postmortem</a>

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