A reply to Gunnar's blog posting:
http://wagenknecht.org/blog/archives/2007/10/eclipsecon-2008-submissions.html
- How can I watch individual
submissions?
1. Go to the submission. For example, this one https://eclipsecon.greenmeetingsystems.com/submissions/view/4
2. The fourth item on the page is "mailing list". Click on that.
3. Subscribe to that mailing list.
4. You, and everyone else on the list, will get notified of all changes.
5. See #1-4
- Where will the program committee votes be visible?
6. On the submission page.
- Where can the community vote?
7. We're not going to have
community voting this year because it was abused by corporate marketing
departments.
8. Instead we're counting on the community to write reviews (actual prose)
which is more useful to the program committer anyway.
- What is behind those cryptic mailing
list names?
9. There are hundreds of them. Hence numbers are better.
- Where is the change history
for a submission?
10. It's there, but I forgot to expose it through the web
pages. It will be exposed soon.
11. The Foundation Corporation
maintains a number of internal wikis that it does not expose to the outside
world. the misnamed "EclipseCon wiki" is one of those. This
particular wiki is used for financial discussions with vendors that are
contractually not able to be made public.
12. See #11
- Where can I download the source code
for the new submission system? What about bug tracking and development
planning?
13. You can't. We don't own the
code. One of our vendors supplies the system. They are not interested in open
sourcing it.
14. We use many vendors to manage EclipseCon. For example, our registrations
are handled by iPlan (http://live.iplanevents.com/).
We also do not own that system, nor is the code open source. For example,
Council and Board meeting dinner registrations are handled by RegOnline (http://regonline.com/). We do not own that
system, nor is the code open source.
15. Feel free to enter bugs under the Eclipse
Foundation > Community > EclipseCon item in bugzilla.
16. I would love to have an open source infrastructure for the submission
system. I, however, don't have time to write one. But if you can implement one
that does all the cool things we need for a successful EclipseCon, we'll switch
over to yours - just let me know :-)
- Why is it hosted outside the
Eclipse.org infrastructure?
17. Because I ran out of time to set up the infrastructure
inside eclipse.org. *I* decided that it was better to open the submission
system using a service than to wait another week or two to get the internal
hosting with all the permissions and accounts and such.
18. There are.
- It probably has been developed by an external
consultancy.
19. Yes it has. See #13
- However, do all these reasons really satisfy a
development approach which looks closed source like to me?
20. See #11
- I’m a bit disappointed now. This is something I
didn’t expect. Maybe I’m just too curious and a lot of these items are already
on an to-do list. But again, where is
this to-do list?
21. Don't know what to do about
your expectations. I'm a
constant source of disappointment to world.
22. Re: to do list - good point - I should have made that public. So now I have.