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		<title>[eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee] Re: [Submission System]	Some feedback and update requests</title>
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		<description>Hi Gabe, Mucho thanks for the update. Cool. Yeah that is a really good improvement, it's much more legible. Including the time is also good, but has exposed a 'feature' - we have tutorials that are 120 min, but also some that are 180 min. Now that the time...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<pre>Hi Gabe,
Mucho thanks for the update.

&gt; I have opened a CQ for the ckeditor. &#xA0;I have not attached the code yet as I
&gt; need to review how much I need. &#xA0;Should have that done soon.

Cool.

&gt; This is done. Check out this example:
&gt; <a  href="https://www.eclipsecon.org/submissions/2010/view_talk.php?id=1077">https://www.eclipsecon.org/submissions/2010/view_talk.php?id=1077</a>

Yeah that is a really good improvement, it's much more
legible. Including the time is also good, but has exposed a
'feature' - we have tutorials that are 120 min, but also some
that are 180 min. Now that the time is shown, tutorials will
all show as 120, which might confuse some. Best solution
is to make another talk type that is 180, f'rinstance an
'Extended Tutorial'.

I'll go in and do that.

&gt; I am am working on this one. &#xA0;I was also working on a feature to allow the
&gt; author to ask for some extra time for their talk. &#xA0;Is this feature to
&gt; replace the extra time or in addition to it?

I guess they are pretty much one and the same thing - the 'extra time'
above and beyond the standard talk slot is what mutates it into the
Extended area. Unless there is some other rationale that I've missed
of course!

&gt; They now have to select at least one tag before they can submit their talk.

Cool. The PC will nudge submitters to add tags to the talks if necessary.

 thanks!
   --oh

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		<title>[eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee] Re: [Submission System]	Some feedback and update requests</title>
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		<description>I have opened a CQ for the ckeditor. I have not attached the code yet as I need to review how much I need. Should have that done soon. This is done. Check out this example: https://www.eclipsecon.org/submissions/2010/view_talk.php?id=1077 I am am working o...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<tt>Thank for the feedback on the Sub System. See my comments below on the 
progress of these tasks.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Oisin Hurley wrote:
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><pre style="margin: 0em;">Hi Gabe,
A few things from todays PC call.</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;"> 1. Dave Carver and Doug Gaff are liking ckeditor to give our submission
pages a bit of polish.  <a  href="http://ckeditor.com/">http://ckeditor.com/</a></pre><br>
<tt><a  href="http://docs.cksource.com/CKEditor_3.x/Developers_Guide/Integration">http://docs.cksource.com/CKEditor_3.x/Developers_Guide/Integration</a><br>
  
</tt></blockquote><tt>I have opened a CQ for the ckeditor.  I have not attached the code yet 
as I need to review how much I need.  Should have that done soon.</tt><br>
<br>
<blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><pre style="margin: 0em;"> 2.  When you are reading a submission, the text of the talk type, theme
and tags are a little confusing to read (I think - see the attachment for
a screenshot). My suggestion here would be make a small change -</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Where you see</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Extended Making for Eclipse</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">change to be</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Making for Eclipse - Extended Talk</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">general form being</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">&lt;theme&gt; - &lt;talk type&gt; Talk</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">The tags are concatenated and make it a bit illegible. Where you see</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Committer And Contributor Java Test And Performance</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">it would be better to read as</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Tags: Committer And Contributor / Java / Test And Performance</pre><br>
<tt>and change it from bold-faced to either plain face or italics (I think it<br>
takes over a bit).<br>
  
</tt></blockquote><pre style="margin: 0em;"><br>This is done. Check out this example:
<a  href="https://www.eclipsecon.org/submissions/2010/view_talk.php?id=1077">https://www.eclipsecon.org/submissions/2010/view_talk.php?id=1077</a></pre><br>
<blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><pre style="margin: 0em;"> 3. This one is an enhancement and may be more tricky. If someone
selects &quot;Extended&quot; as their talk type, then we present another form
entitled &quot;We have a limited number of Extended talks available, so
each Extended talk application is scrutinized by the Program Committee.
Please provide some reasons why you believe that this talk should be
granted 'Extended' status.&quot; Then there is a place to insert some text.
When the submitter saves, then this text is saved as a 'private' comment
to the PC.</pre><br>
<tt>  
</tt></blockquote><tt><br>I am am working on this one.  I was also working on a feature to allow 
the author to ask for some extra time for their talk.  Is this feature 
to replace the extra time or in addition to it?</tt><br>
<br>
<blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><pre style="margin: 0em;"> 4. Is it possible to make tagging mandatory? That is, there must be
at least one tag before the thing can be officially submitted. Does this
make sense?</pre><br>
<tt>  
</tt></blockquote><pre style="margin: 0em;">They now have to select at least one tag before they can submit their talk.</pre><br>
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		<title>RE: [eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee] Speaker Passes	Description</title>
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		<description> I'm trying to remember (and not succeeding so well) if we gave a discount at all for lightning talks last year? Did you have to do two of them to get your discount or something?  --oh _______________________________________________ eclipse.org-eclipsecon-...</description>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I think this is a great policy to continue. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>They key message for the program committee is that, when
appropriate, make sure speakers understand this.&nbsp; If we&#8217;re going to
have a lot more 25 minute talks this year, then the risk is there&#8217;s a lot
more speakers get concerned when they don&#8217;t get a free full pass.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
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color:#1F497D'>Don<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Content-filter at
foundation.eclipse.org [mailto:postmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] <b>On Behalf
Of </b>Bjorn Freeman-Benson<br>
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<b>To:</b> Eclipsecon Program Committee list<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Last year it was 2% discount
per minute of presentation maxing out at 100% per hour. 10 minute talk = 20%. 2
talks at 15 minutes each = 60%. two hour talk = 2 x 100% discount.<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Oisin Hurley &lt;<a
href="mailto:oisin.hurley@xxxxxxxxx">oisin.hurley@xxxxxxxxx</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>I'm trying to remember (and not succeeding so well) if we
gave a discount<br>
at all for lightning talks last year? Did you have to do two of them to get<br>
your discount or something?<br>
<br>
&nbsp;--oh<br>
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		<title>Re: [eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee] Speaker Passes	Description</title>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<pre style="margin: 0em;">I think a 10 minute talk in the past got something like a 10% discount.</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Dave</pre><br>
<tt>Oisin Hurley wrote:
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><pre style="margin: 0em;">I'm trying to remember (and not succeeding so well) if we gave a discount
at all for lightning talks last year? Did you have to do two of them to get
your discount or something?</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;"> --oh
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		<title>Re: [eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee] Speaker Passes 	Description</title>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[Last year it was 2% discount per minute of presentation maxing out at 100% per hour. 10 minute talk = 20%. 2 talks at 15 minutes each = 60%. two hour talk = 2 x 100% discount.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Oisin Hurley <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:oisin.hurley@xxxxxxxxx">oisin.hurley@xxxxxxxxx</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">I&#39;m trying to remember (and not succeeding so well) if we gave a discount<br>
at all for lightning talks last year? Did you have to do two of them to get<br>
your discount or something?<br>
<br>
&#xA0;--oh<br>
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		<title>Re: [eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee] A couple more	EclipseCon 2010 Panel Ideas</title>
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		<description>You probably want to involve the Jetty folks in this as well. Dave </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<tt>Oisin Hurley wrote:
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><pre style="margin: 0em;">Panel:  The Future of Application Servers</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Ok, so you have an application server, right, and it's a big
lump of engineering with a set of standard APIs, and it's
very popular. What's going to happen though with all this
OSGi and modularity and propensity to desire 'lightness'
that is going on? Let's hear the architect's view, eg</pre><br>
<tt> someone from websphere<br>
 someone from oracle<br>
 someone from spring<br>
 someone from jboss<br>
  
</tt></blockquote><pre style="margin: 0em;">You probably want to involve the Jetty folks in this as well.</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Dave</pre><br>
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		<title>Re: [eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee] Speaker Passes 	Description</title>
		<link>http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee/msg02011.html</link>
		<description>I'm trying to remember (and not succeeding so well) if we gave a discount at all for lightning talks last year? Did you have to do two of them to get your discount or something? --oh </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<pre>I'm trying to remember (and not succeeding so well) if we gave a discount
at all for lightning talks last year? Did you have to do two of them to get
your discount or something?

 --oh

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		<title>[eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee] Speaker Passes	Description</title>
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		<description> FYI, I took a stab at describing the policy towards speaker passes &amp;#8211; we&amp;#8217;ll put a link to this in the submission system so that people have grounded expectations when they submit their talks.   http://wiki.eclipse.org/EclipseCon_2010_Submission_Guidelines#...</description>
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<p class=MsoNormal>FYI, I took a stab at describing the policy towards speaker
passes &#8211; we&#8217;ll put a link to this in the submission system so that
people have grounded expectations when they submit their talks.<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><a
href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/EclipseCon_2010_Submission_Guidelines#Speaker_Passes">http://wiki.eclipse.org/EclipseCon_2010_Submission_Guidelines#Speaker_Passes</a><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>Please let me know if you have broad comments &#8211; if you
have minor tweaks I would just point out that it&#8217;s a wiki ;)<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>Donald Smith<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>Director of Ecosystem Development<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>Eclipse Foundation, Inc.<o:p></o:p></p>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:01:05 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>[eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee] A couple more EclipseCon	2010 Panel Ideas</title>
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		<description>Here's a couple of goodies from Ian, which I kinda like. What do you think of them? Panel: Open Source 2.0 A discussion of where next in Open Source. Panel to be staffed by analyst and open source-y pundit types eg Matt Aslett Jeffrey Hammond Matt Asay Mic...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<pre>Here's a couple of goodies from Ian, which I kinda like. What
do you think of them?

Panel:  Open Source 2.0

A discussion of where next in Open Source. Panel to be staffed
by analyst and open source-y pundit types eg

 Matt Aslett
 Jeffrey Hammond
 Matt Asay
 Michael Cot&#xE9;
 Mike Milinkovich (who? ed.)

I like - except title probably not so great since it clashes with
a book that was published in 2005 - maybe Open Source 3.0 :)

Panel:  The Future of Application Servers

Ok, so you have an application server, right, and it's a big
lump of engineering with a set of standard APIs, and it's
very popular. What's going to happen though with all this
OSGi and modularity and propensity to desire 'lightness'
that is going on? Let's hear the architect's view, eg

 someone from websphere
 someone from oracle
 someone from spring
 someone from jboss

I like this one too -- it would be cool to title it

&quot;Waiting for Chicxulub 2.0 -- the future of application servers&quot;

;-)

 --oh

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		<title>[eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee] EclipseCon 2010:	Snooping on the submissions system</title>
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		<description>In case you (like me) forgot totally how to do this, you can set up a watch on the submissions system here https://www.eclipsecon.org/submissions/2010/watch_lists.php Login is required. There is an action on the list to include tags as watchable items, so ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<pre>In case you (like me) forgot totally how to do this, you can
set up a watch on the submissions system here

<a  href="https://www.eclipsecon.org/submissions/2010/watch_lists.php">https://www.eclipsecon.org/submissions/2010/watch_lists.php</a>

Login is required. There is an action on the list to include tags
as watchable items, so expect that to appear at some point.
Then you can hone your view of what's happening to something
more pointed and relevant.

 cheers
   --oh

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