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Re: [eclipse.org-architecture-council] [ide-dev] Fixing the Target platform editor

We considered it, yes.   Then we considered what it would be like to spend many months on politics, backwards compatibility testing, arguing about design points, and so on, and so on, verses simply spending several weeks implementing something better that can coexist will without adverse impact on legacy details.  Decisions, decisions...

In the end, the serialization of the .target file is a direct reflection of the poor implementation (model) of the ITargetDefinition.  You can't simply improve the editor nor can you implement a good design from the existing serialization.  It's just legacy, and in the end, the old design needs to remain there for compatibility.  Why bother improving it, when every change will break someone somehow?    Look at https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=506850 as a case in point.

Something new-and-improved is badly needed to supersede the legacy baggage without disrupting the baggage itself.   Now we have it, in Oomph. 

Unfortunately, without really understanding it, some feel free, to characterize, in a most-humble-of-opinions-sort-of-way-of-course,  as one layer of abstraction too many. 

Did you consider looking more closely at all the details before expressing a most-humble-opinion?


On 22.11.2016 16:51, Mickael Istria wrote:
On 11/22/2016 04:47 PM, Ed Merks wrote:
The .target editor is basically unusable.  It screws up IDE's current resolved target just to open the editor.  I never use it and I cringe when I'm at a customer site and they double-click the generated .target file that they need only for their Tycho build. 
Even if there existed a great .target editor (or there existed an editor with a prettier syntax), the built-in ITargetDefinition implementation itself is very poor.
Did you consider contributing enhancement to the default implementation of ITargetDefinition or to the .target editor?

I think our community would be better off if there were less things in the platform (PDE and JDT don't belong there).
+1.
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