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[eclipse.org-architecture-council] [Bug 284552] Voting: Subclipse as default SVN support provider
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- Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 04:54:48 -0400 (EDT)
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Martin Oberhuber <martin.oberhuber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> changed:
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--- Comment #10 from Martin Oberhuber <martin.oberhuber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 2009-07-31 04:52:09 -0400 ---
(In reply to comment #9)
I'm copying the architecture council since this is more or less a frequently
> But even if Subclipse is not an Eclipse project, can it still be bundled with
> common Eclipse downloads?
There is a small chance doing so -- the com.ibm.icu bundle and other 3rd party
bundles from Orbit are also distributed from Eclipse.org.
1. Eclipse.org can only distribute stuff that's 100% IP clean and licensed
with a license compatible with the EPL. Note that just the EPL license
is not sufficient, IP cleanliness must also be checked -- otherwise
some developer could claim that stuff is licensed under EPL while it
really infringes somebody's IP.
2. The IP cleanliness checks must be made at Eclipse.org -- either by an
IP Review or by only having committers/contributors to the code which
have signed an Eclipse Committer Agreement (in which they basically
promise they won't ever infringe anybody's IP and abide by IP due
3. Since Subclipse developers are not committers today, an IP Review / code
scan would be necessary. Because of the effort and workload doing this,
it cannot be done too often. In other words, Subclipse would need to
commit to officially releasing their stuff at a given point in time, such
that the IP review can then take place.
Today, if I'm not mistaken, Subclipse more or less distributes weekly
builds from their update site but not well-defined releases.
There may be more obstacles, but these are the ones I can think of today. Fact
is, being an Eclipse project does come at a cost (release reviews, development
process, IP due diligence) but does give the benefit of 100% IP cleanliness
which commercial adopters of Eclipse.org technology value.
You cannot have the benefit (approved Eclipse.org download) without a cost. Who
would be willing to pay the cost?
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