Re: [eclipse-pmc] Concerns Regarding Sub-Project Merege

[Lars Vogel <lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 7:15 PM, Daniel Megert <daniel_megert@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> But how do you think the planning, sign-off, bug triage etc. works?

IIRC we discussed in the PMC call that we will still have persons
responsible for subcomponents. I think having one project does not
mean that we have not responsible persons for technical components.

>
>
>
> From:        Lars Vogel <lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To:        eclipse-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Date:        21.06.2017 17:05
> Subject:        Re: [eclipse-pmc] Concerns Regarding Sub-Project Merege
> Sent by:        eclipse-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> ________________________________
>
>
>
> Hi Dani,
>
> I'm still +1 for merging all platform projects together with Equinox
> into one platform project.
>
> All current leads should become co-leads for the new project, as we
> discussed earlier.
>
> For PDE and JDT I have no strong feelings, IMHO we could leave them as
> separate projects.
>
> Maybe we could merge JDT core and JDT UI, there seems to be very
> little activity in JDT UI at the moment. Again, I have no strong
> feeling here, just a suggestion to simplify the setup in JDT.
>
> Best regards, Lars
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 4:50 PM, Daniel Megert <daniel_megert@xxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>> Dear  Eclipse PMC Colleagues
>>
>> After thinking about this more and talking to my team I still have strong
>> concerns to do that move. Here are some of them:
>>
>> - All current (sub-) projects will be archived i.e. we and the community
>> won't be able to find and learn about e.g. JDT in the PMI.
>> - There will only be one project with all committers. We would have to
>> copy/replicate all the details that we currently have in the sub-projects
>> into that super project to keep users informed.
>> - Which people will lead that super project? One person can't do that.
>> Will
>> existing leads become co-leads? That would mean many leads and the project
>> charter does not define the role of a main/super (co-) lead.
>> - Do we introduce the concept of components, i.e. do we replicate what we
>> currently get by the PMI but not based on an official project charter? If
>> so, we would have to define that and create web pages that show the
>> components and (co-) leads. Basically replicate what we currently have,
>> except for the commit rights.
>> - My team was very unhappy when I informed them about this potential
>> change.
>> Putting code that's related to Platform UI together is one thing, but
>> opening up SWT, JDT and PDE to everyone caused very scary feelings (also
>> for
>> me to be honest).
>>
>> I would like to ask the PMC to reconsider this decision for now and
>> instead
>> resend the message that the PMC encourages a fast track for existing
>> committers to become a committer on another project
>> (https://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/eclipse-dev/msg10305.html).
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dani
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> eclipse-pmc mailing list
>> eclipse-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe
>> from
>> this list, visit
>> https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/eclipse-pmc
>
>
>
> --
> Eclipse Platform UI and e4 project co-lead
> CEO vogella GmbH
>
> Haindaalwisch 17a, 22395 Hamburg
> Amtsgericht Hamburg: HRB 127058
> Geschäftsführer: Lars Vogel, Jennifer Nerlich de Vogel
> USt-IdNr.: DE284122352
> Fax (040) 5247 6322, Email: lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxxxx, Web:
> http://www.vogella.com
> _______________________________________________
> eclipse-pmc mailing list
> eclipse-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe from
> this list, visit
> https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/eclipse-pmc
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> eclipse-pmc mailing list
> eclipse-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe from
> this list, visit
> https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/eclipse-pmc



-- 
Eclipse Platform UI and e4 project co-lead
CEO vogella GmbH

Haindaalwisch 17a, 22395 Hamburg
Amtsgericht Hamburg: HRB 127058
Geschäftsführer: Lars Vogel, Jennifer Nerlich de Vogel
USt-IdNr.: DE284122352
Fax (040) 5247 6322, Email: lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxxxx, Web: http://www.vogella.com