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Re: [eclipse-pmc] Request for splitting out a PDE spy into a separate bundle to make it consumable in RCP
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> Would it make sense maintaining backward compatibility
Not necessary. No API change involved.
On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Oberhuber, Martin
<Martin.Oberhuber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Thanks Lars,
>
> +1 for refactoring into a bundle from my POV. Breaking unnecessary dependencies is always a good thing. Would it make sense maintaining backward compatibility by re-exporting the new bundle from the old one .. or should we clean this up ?
>
> Thanks,
> Martin
> --
> Martin Oberhuber, SMTS / Product Owner – Development Tools, Wind River
>
> On 05/04/17 14:27, "eclipse-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Lars Vogel" <eclipse-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > If it is technically possible to break dependencies onto PDE, this spy can live as a separate bundle in the PDE repository. Right ?
>
> Yes, and that is exactly what I'm asking here. I would like to move it
> to a new bundle in the PDE repository. For M7 any new bundle needs PMC
> approval.
>
> Best regards, Lars
>
> On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 11:47 AM, Oberhuber, Martin
> <Martin.Oberhuber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Hi Lars,
> >
> > I don’t quite understand.
> >
> > If it is technically possible to break dependencies onto PDE, this spy can live as a separate bundle in the PDE repository. Right ? The PDE repository isn’t that big and doesn’t have dependencies other than JDT … so just having to clone one extra git repo shouldn’t cause issues.
> >
> > Am I missing a point ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Martin
> > --
> > Martin Oberhuber, SMTS / Product Owner – Development Tools, Wind River
> >
> > On 04/04/17 21:30, "eclipse-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Lars Vogel" <eclipse-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > Anyway, I'm not strongly against moving it inside PDE if the other PMC
> > > members agree.
> >
> > Any opinion from the other PMC members? Again, this change includes no
> > functional change, no API. It will only make this spy available for
> > RCP customers without pulling PDE as dependency.
> >
> > >
> > > Dani
> > > From: Lars Vogel <lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: eclipse-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Date: 31.03.2017 12:35
> > > Subject: Re: [eclipse-pmc] Request for splitting out a PDE spy into a
> > > separate bundle to make it consumable in RCP
> > >
> > > Sent by: eclipse-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Because it is a tool for plug-in and RCP development. I prefer to have
> > > such tools in PDE which IMHO is the logical place for them.
> > >
> > > Also the PMC approved a while ago to move the e4 spies to PDE and it
> > > think this spies will fit well into them. (Note: the move has never
> > > started due to capacity issues on the e4 side, but is still planned).
> > >
> > > Best regards, Lars
> > >
> > > On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 12:25 PM, Daniel Megert
> > > <daniel_megert@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >> If the goal is to make it independent of PDE, why then not move it to the
> > >> platform.ui repository? With the proposed solution developers that want to
> > >> work on the spy still have to clone the whole PDE repository, just for
> > >> that
> > >> single bundle.
> > >>
> > >> Dani
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> From: Lars Vogel <lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> To: eclipse-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> Date: 31.03.2017 12:19
> > >> Subject: [eclipse-pmc] Request for splitting out a PDE spy into a
> > >> separate bundle to make it consumable in RCP
> > >> Sent by: eclipse-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> ________________________________
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> I request permission to move the existing PDE layout spy to a separate
> > >> bundle. This will make the layout spy consumable without pulling in
> > >> PDE and its dependencies into the RCP application.
> > >>
> > >> No functionality is altered by this move. No API is created by this
> > >> change.
> > >>
> > >> See Bug 503393 - Move SWT layout spy to separate plug-in to remove PDE
> > >> dependency for RCP apps
> > >>
> > >> Best regards, Lars
> > >> --
> > >> Eclipse Platform UI and e4 project co-lead
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> > >>
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> CEO vogella GmbH
>
> Haindaalwisch 17a, 22395 Hamburg
> Amtsgericht Hamburg: HRB 127058
> Geschäftsführer: Lars Vogel, Jennifer Nerlich de Vogel
> USt-IdNr.: DE284122352
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CEO vogella GmbH
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Amtsgericht Hamburg: HRB 127058
Geschäftsführer: Lars Vogel, Jennifer Nerlich de Vogel
USt-IdNr.: DE284122352
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