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Re: [eclipse-pmc] Request for splitting out a PDE spy into a separate bundle to make it consumable in RCP

> If it is technically possible to break dependencies onto PDE, this spy can live as a separate bundle in the PDE repository. Right ?

Yes, and that is exactly what I'm asking here. I would like to move it
to a new bundle in the PDE repository. For M7 any new bundle needs PMC
approval.

Best regards, Lars

On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 11:47 AM, Oberhuber, Martin
<Martin.Oberhuber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Lars,
>
> I don’t quite understand.
>
> If it is technically possible to break dependencies onto PDE, this spy can live as a separate bundle in the PDE repository. Right ? The PDE repository isn’t that big and doesn’t have dependencies other than JDT … so just having to clone one extra git repo shouldn’t cause issues.
>
> Am I missing a point ?
>
> Thanks,
> Martin
> --
> Martin Oberhuber, SMTS / Product Owner – Development Tools, Wind River
>
> On 04/04/17 21:30, "eclipse-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Lars Vogel" <eclipse-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>     > Anyway, I'm not strongly against moving it inside PDE if the other PMC
>     > members agree.
>
>     Any opinion from the other PMC members? Again, this change includes no
>     functional change, no API. It will only make this spy available for
>     RCP customers without pulling PDE as dependency.
>
>     >
>     > Dani
>     > From:        Lars Vogel <lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>     > To:        eclipse-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx
>     > Date:        31.03.2017 12:35
>     > Subject:        Re: [eclipse-pmc] Request for splitting out a PDE spy into a
>     > separate bundle to make it consumable in RCP
>     >
>     > Sent by:        eclipse-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>     > ________________________________
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > Because it is a tool for plug-in and RCP development. I prefer to have
>     > such tools in PDE which IMHO is the logical place for them.
>     >
>     > Also the PMC approved a while ago to move the e4 spies to PDE and it
>     > think this spies will fit well into them. (Note: the move has never
>     > started due to capacity issues on the e4 side, but is still planned).
>     >
>     > Best regards, Lars
>     >
>     > On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 12:25 PM, Daniel Megert
>     > <daniel_megert@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>     >> If the goal is to make it independent of PDE, why then not move it to the
>     >> platform.ui repository? With the proposed solution developers that want to
>     >> work on the spy still have to clone the whole PDE repository, just for
>     >> that
>     >> single bundle.
>     >>
>     >> Dani
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> From:        Lars Vogel <lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>     >> To:        eclipse-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx
>     >> Date:        31.03.2017 12:19
>     >> Subject:        [eclipse-pmc] Request for splitting out a PDE spy into a
>     >> separate bundle to make it consumable in RCP
>     >> Sent by:        eclipse-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>     >> ________________________________
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Hi,
>     >>
>     >> I request permission to move the existing PDE layout spy to a separate
>     >> bundle. This will make the layout spy consumable without pulling in
>     >> PDE and its dependencies into the RCP application.
>     >>
>     >> No functionality is altered by this move. No API is created by this
>     >> change.
>     >>
>     >> See Bug 503393 - Move SWT layout spy to separate plug-in to remove PDE
>     >> dependency for RCP apps
>     >>
>     >> Best regards, Lars
>     >> --
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>     >> CEO vogella GmbH
>     >>
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