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RE: [eclipse-incubator-e4-dev] Filling the vacuum

Forgot to mention that before, but I would appreciate it greatly if general comments about the API and the tutorial be directed to the project’s newsgroup rather than this mailing list. Of course, any specific discussion about this framework in the context of E4 can still take place on this list.

 

http://www.eclipse.org/newsportal/thread.php?group=eclipse.fproj

 

 

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From: Schaefer, Doug [mailto:Doug.Schaefer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 10:33 AM
To: konstantin.komissarchik@xxxxxxxxxx; E4 developer list; Ed Merks
Subject: RE: [eclipse-incubator-e4-dev] Filling the vacuum

 

I'll certainly take a look at this.

 

Doug.

 


From: eclipse-incubator-e4-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:eclipse-incubator-e4-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Konstantin Komissarchik
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 1:29 PM
To: Ed Merks; E4 developer list
Subject: RE: [eclipse-incubator-e4-dev] Filling the vacuum

> You don't really see faceted projects as an e4 story since you expect it ought to be mainstream in the 3.x stream. 

> I suppose for e4 it would make good sense for this to be an integral part of the platform API, so that's your purpose

> for bring the issue up here.   I agree natures are quite poorly handled currently.  They're hard or impossible to add

> or remove. 

 

Exactly. I want to make progress on the 3.x stream, but I also want to explore the possibility of making facets be a platform facility for E4. Since the Faceted Project Framework would start out under Technology, it will need to find a more permanent home at some point. A sub-project beneath Eclipse Project or Tools Project are two of the possibilities.

 

> It will be interesting to see more about the APIs involved...

 

There is an article on eclipse.org that would be a good way to learn about the API from the perspective of facet author.

 

http://www.eclipse.org/articles/Article-BuildingProjectFacets/tutorial.html

 

 

Oracle
Konstantin Komissarchik | Consulting Member of Technical Staff
Phone: +1 425 201 1795 | Mobile: +1 206 898 0611
Oracle Eclipse Tooling
411 108th Ave NE, Suite 2100 | Bellevue, WA 98004

 


From: Ed Merks [mailto:ed.merks@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 3:54 AM
To: konstantin.komissarchik@xxxxxxxxxx; E4 developer list
Subject: Re: [eclipse-incubator-e4-dev] Filling the vacuum

 

Kosta,

I would expect a Poisson distribution to produce pretty much the initial positing patterns we see, with the added assumption that once a message is posted, a cascade of response messages typically results.   Hey, isn't poisson the French word for fish?  I wouldn't read in anything fishy beyond that...

You don't really see faceted projects as an e4 story since you expect it ought to be mainstream in the 3.x stream.  I suppose for e4 it would make good sense for this to be an integral part of the platform API, so that's your purpose for bring the issue up here.   I agree natures are quite poorly handled currently.  They're hard or impossible to add or remove.  It will be interesting to see more about the APIs involved...

Cheers,
Ed


Konstantin Komissarchik wrote:

So what happened to all the activity on this list? It went from a regular 20 messages a day down to 1 yesterday and none today. Something is fishy here. It sounds like everyone got a day off and I didn’t get the memo. In the interest of filling the empty space and since this was mentioned earlier on this list, I’d like to draw people’s attention to the declaration of the Faceted Project Framework project [1]. The newsgroup [2] is live and is starting to get some traffic. Folks on this mailing list might be particularly interested in [3] where I answer the “why can’t we just extend natures” question. In any case, if you have questions about facets, are wondering if you have formed any misconceptions or already know that you want to get involved, jump on the newsgroup and fire away.

 

[1] http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/fproj/

[2] http://www.eclipse.org/newsportal/thread.php?group=eclipse.fproj

[3] http://www.eclipse.org/newsportal/article.php?id=4&group=eclipse.fproj#4

 

Thanks for listening.

 

Oracle
Konstantin Komissarchik | Consulting Member of Technical Staff
Phone: +1 425 201 1795 | Mobile: +1 206 898 0611
Oracle Eclipse Tooling
411 108th Ave NE, Suite 2100 | Bellevue, WA 98004

 

 

 
 
 



 
 
 
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