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RE: [eclipse-incubator-e4-dev] Declaritive UI and XUL
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I have no data about the use of XUL for other applications than FF. But
ZK has adopted it (http://www.zkoss.org/) and ZK seems to have some
uptake (see there references here http://www.zkoss.org/whosusingzk/).
The number of Add-ons for Firefox is amazing. I guess that it is easier
write a Firefox add-on than an Eclipse plug-in, but we have to check.
Jochen
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To be clear: I wasn't diss'ing the use of XUL for building
Firefox/Lightning plug-ins. I was asking "Has it been used to build a
lot of other applications?".
re: four times more than ... Eclipse --
Do you believe that there is something inherent in the framework
that caused this, or is it just that more people care about browsers
than IDEs?
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04/21/08 05:36 PM RE: [eclipse-incubator-e4-dev]
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To me declaritive UI is not that much about design wins, it is more
about providing people that are used to work with markup a way to create
user interfaces. JavaScript is also in the mix, it seems like an obvious
place to have a look at.
I had a brief look at the amount of extensions that are available for
Firefox, and it seems to be 4756 add-ons. This is four times more than
the amount of plug-ins that I am aware of for Eclipse. Probably most of
the extensions use XUL, but I don't know that for sure.
Jochen
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I read through the XUL doc at one point, and spent some time playing
with the tutorial, but that's about it. At the time, it seemed
reasonable, but I didn't see a lot of design wins. Is XUL getting
traction?
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Has anybody in this group already had a closer look at XUL? It would
make a quite compelling story if the Mozilla Foundation and the Eclipse
Foundation would use a common declarative UI language.
XUL seems to be closely aligned with the DOM, a goal that I have also
heard for e4. I know that this would seriously limit the degrees of
freedom available to us. But if we consider XUL a possible way to go we
may want to reach out to the Mozilla community for the summit.
They also have a declarative databinding framework.
Jochen
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