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RE: [eclipse-incubator-e4-dev] Initial discussion onthe'modelled'workbench UI
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Of course, Kenn!
Tom, drop me line if you need me to help you on the Ecore model?
Cheers,
Yves
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[mailto:eclipse-incubator-e4-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kenn
Hussey
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 8:55 PM
To: E4 developer list
Subject: RE: [eclipse-incubator-e4-dev] Initial discussion
onthe'modelled'workbench UI
Yves,
The source is all in CVS - details can be found at
http://wiki.eclipse.org/E4/Running_the_demos. Note, however, that Tom
may have already begun some work on "EMFizing" the API, so we should
coordinate with him...
Cheers,
Kenn Hussey
Program Manager, EA/Studio
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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:eclipse-incubator-e4-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Yves
YANG
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 2:51 PM
To: 'E4 developer list'
Subject: RE: [eclipse-incubator-e4-dev] Initial discussion on
the'modelled'workbench UI
Forgive my ignorance; I just jump on this discussion. Please indicate me
the
location of the sources. I'll do it.
Yves
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[mailto:eclipse-incubator-e4-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kenn
Hussey
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 5:36 PM
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Subject: RE: [eclipse-incubator-e4-dev] Initial discussion on the
'modelled'workbench UI
Yves,
One thing you could do is use your tool to help us reverse engineer the
prototype API into an Ecore model...
Cheers,
Kenn Hussey
Program Manager, EA/Studio
[Embarcadero Technologies Logo]
Embarcadero Technologies, Inc. | www.embarcadero.com
110 Spadina Avenue, Suite 400 | Toronto, ON M5V 2K4
Kenn.Hussey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Mobile: 613-301-9105
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Subject: Re: [eclipse-incubator-e4-dev] Initial discussion on the
'modelled' workbench UI
Hi all,
I'm very interested in this tropic since I work on a project VEX
(subproject of VE for XML GUI), which definitively needs an UI model.
The
current implementation VEX for our customer relies on EMF model. Please
let me know what I can do for this issue.
Best regards
Yves YANG
> Tom,
>
> I personally like EObject being in the API for exactly this type of
> reason.
> I.e. it provides a very small set of extremely useful methods to
access
> the
> adapters (for receiving notifications), the container, the contained
> children, the metadata, and so on as well as making it easy to apply
any
> reflection-based utilities to the instance. But some folks are
purists
> and
> don't want any method other than the ones they've provided visible.
(Those
> same people aren't the least bit bothered by all the methods that
> java.lang.Object introduces into their class hierarchy.) Other folks
are
> pseudo purists and want to define their own facade API instead. For
these
> reasons, I try to make EMF be more like plastic, so that it can be
molded
> to best suit other people's ideals rather than just my own...
>
>
> Ed Merks/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA
> mailto: merks@xxxxxxxxxx
> 905-413-3265 (t/l 313)
>
>
>
>
>
> Tom Schindl
> <tom.schindl@best
> solution.at>
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Subject
> 04/04/2008 08:08 Re: [eclipse-incubator-e4-dev]
> AM Initial discussion on the
> 'modelled' workbench UI
>
> Please respond to
> E4 developer list
> <eclipse-incubato
> r-e4-dev@eclipse.
> org>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Ed Merks schrieb:
>> Kevin,
>>
>> Comments below.
>>
>>
>> Ed Merks/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA
>> mailto: merks@xxxxxxxxxx
>> 905-413-3265 (t/l 313)
>>
>>
>>
>> eclipse-incubator-e4-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 04/03/2008
>> 06:40:36
>> PM:
>>
>>> I believe there's going to be a lot of reluctance to introducing EMF
>>> into the platform.
>>
>> Really, I wonder why you believe that? So far there seems to be
mostly
>> support in favor of reusing long established technology and
experience.
>>
>>> Although maybe not for good reason.
>>
>> I suppose we can dismiss the bad reasons pretty quickly and then
focus
>> on
>> the good reason.
>>
>>> The problem
>>> with these kinds of discussions is that they're so abstract that its
>>> easy for personal preferences or ignorance (in this case, mine) to
>>> get in the way.
>>
>> Yes, human nature will always be what it is. Just as the neighbour's
> grass
>> always looks greener, your own baby always seems cuter. (I've
figured
> the
>> greener grass thing out though. It's because grass from an angle
looks
>> greener than if you look straight down at it. So the neighbours
grass
>> looking greener is perspective thing than changes as soon as you walk
> over
>> and look closely to notice the bare earth and the infiltrating
weeds.)
>>
>>
>>> I've not done any in-depth EMF work, I'd say I've
>>> more been acquainted with an EMF model or two but, well you know,
>>> never really gotten to know them. I'm sure their really wonderful
>>> once you take the time, I'm embarrased to say that I've not.
>>
>> Given that you can completely suppress EMF (EObject, EList, and so
on)
> from
>> the model's API, you might even have met a few "closet" EMF models.
:-P
>>
>
> Well there are things we can't hide from the API because we need a
> possibility to attach-listeners to our model so what we need to expose
> are the things coming from EMF-Common (Adapter, Notification) if I'm
not
> completely mistaken.
>
> I'm going to study Eric's code on the weekend to understand how his
> model works :-)
>
> Tom
>
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