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Re: [eclipse-dev] Download path for UFaceKit and Builds

On 01/25/2010 03:53 PM, Tom Schindl wrote:
I now tried the 3rd time understand how this athena stuff works and I
have to admit that it *frustrates* me that I still don't get how to work


Tom,

If you're frustrated with Athena, perhaps now is a great time to ask for help.

Athena is operating under the Dash project, which has a forum for user questions:
http://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php?t=thread&frm_id=46&;

You can also reach the Athena developers directly using the dash-dev mailing list, who can certainly help you out:
https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/dash-dev

Also, since many Eclipse projects use Athena, the cross-project list can also be a useful resource:
https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev

Finally, you can use Eclipse Bugzilla to report bugs against the Athena project:
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/enter_bug.cgi?product=Dash%20Athena



I figure the worst thing we can do is remain silent. With your input, we'll fix the docs and/or the code and make this Athena thing better and better.

Denis






On 01/25/2010 03:53 PM, Tom Schindl wrote:
Hi Kim,

Yes it is an incubation project and my intention is to setup my own build.

I now tried the 3rd time understand how this athena stuff works and I
have to admit that it *frustrates* me that I still don't get how to work
with it (so many different config-files, no explaination how to work
with Subversion - at least I found no map file explaining how it looks
like, ...).

I don't want to step on anyones toes but for me as "dumb" developer all
this build stuff is a level to high given the fact that I simply want to
compile a bunch of PLAIN JAVA files and package them as .jars (with
minimal dependencies - SDK + some bundles from Orbit).

I really don't know how to proceed because all of the build technologies
available to me at Eclipse-Servers (athena, buckminster, ...) are so
complex that they simply kill off all the fun I have developing code.

If I count the time I have already tried to understand those build
system(s) I would have written an ant-File to build my plugins, features
and update-site and probably finished my JUnit-Test-Suite.

A more and more frustrated Eclipse-Projectlead/Developer

Tom

Am 25.01.10 15:40, schrieb Kim Moir:
Hi Tom

So this is an incubation project?   The approach that we have taken with
the Equinox incubation projects recently is for them to have their own
builds separate from the Eclipse/Equinox build.  Our build takes four
hours to complete and it makes more sense for incubation projects to
have their own more agile builds :-)

What I would suggest is that use you use the infrastructure provided by
the dash project (Athena) to run your builds.

_http://wiki.eclipse.org/Common_Build_Infrastructure/Getting_Started_

This will also allow to you run your build on Hudson.

_http://wiki.eclipse.org/Common_Build_Infrastructure/Getting_Started/Build_In_Hudson_

I have admin rights on build.eclipse.org's Hudson so I can create your
job once your build is working.  Once you get these running, we can set
up a cronjob to copy the results of your build to the appropriate area
of download.eclipse.org. For security reasons, the hudson user can't
write to the download.eclipse.org download area. Also, I assume you'll
have your own p2 repository area?

Kim



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Hi,

The SWT port of UFaceKit is entering in a phase where people can consume
code and start working with a quite stable API and implementation beside
that all external dependencies are approved the IP team.

So I'm going to invest time to provide nightly builds and M builds which
will hopefully lead into a release some time in Spring 2010.

The question is now where I have to publish my builds in
download.eclipse.org and I hope you can point me to right place.

My guess is that I should create a subfolder under downloads/eclipse
named ufacekit but before doing so I wanted to ask.

Finally one more question is there somebody out there who can help me
getting builds up and running - they are plain Java builds who need
Eclipse-SDK and some bundles from Orbit?

Tom

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