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Re: [eclipse-dev] Planning Meeting Notes - Feb 4, 2009


I wasn't trying to blame anyone either.  Most people view a rebuild as just pushing a button.  But there are opportunity costs associated with each rebuild that often not considered.

Steve, the build finished at around 6:30 on Friday.   I didn't check the build until Saturday morning.  One file change, what could go wrong? :-)

Kim



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Everyone agrees that you made the best decision and especially when faced with the scarcity of comments from ppl who requested the build or the PMC.
I think we were just talking of trying to find a better policy for next time around.


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I've been thinking about the discussion in the arch call today regarding the M5 retrospective.

The PMC approached me on Friday morning and said that we needed a rebuild to include the new Galileo splash screen. It was my understanding that the splash screen needed to be correct for Eclipsecon. The rebuild broke and I spent many hours troubleshooting the problem. In the process, we discovered several issues around resigning jars which were valuable for the community. If I didn't fix this problem on the weekend, the builds would have all been broken this week.


I could have just promoted the older build without the splash screen fix. However, I was trying to promote a good M5 and avoid a milestone rebuild. Everyone laughes about M5a. However, milestone rebuilds waste a LOT of my time. Time that could be better served by making progress on bugs for the next milestone. Not only is it costly for me personally, it wastes a lot of time for the community as they have to adjust to a new milestone. It doesn't make our team look great either :-( That being said, I understand that unforseen issues arise that sometimes require a milestone rebuild.


My point is that I made the best decision I could given the information available to me.


Kim


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Status
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JDT APT:
- newsgroups, inbox, Bugzilla, conf calls
- testing for M5

JDT UI:
- no pending 3.4.2 fixes
- 3.5 M6 planning
- improved selection behavior of Quick views (Ctrl+O, Ctrl+T) for
enclosing types
- continued work on auto-sort of working sets in Package Explorer
- fixed problems with Go Into in JDT extension of Common Navigator
- fixed Sort Members to avoid moving initializers (bug 263173)
- inbox tracking

Platform Text and JDT Text:
- no pending 3.4.2 fixes
- 3.5 M6 planning
- continued work on 'Open Implementation' hyperlink detector
- bug fixing
- inbox tracking

Platform Search:
- no pending 3.4.2 fixes
- inbox tracking

JDT Core:
- 3.5M5 bugs verification and N&N
- removed deprecated NamingConventions.VK_CONSTANT_FIELD
- keep investigating problem with indentation in ast rewrite
- resumed work on search to provide matching regions
- activated memory trace while running model tests to track:
-
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=260739
- fixed performance regression during startup

Debug:
- contributed 3.4.2 fix for console deadlock (bug 259107)
- bug fixing
- 3.5 M5 test pass
- M6 planning

PDE:
- contributed 3.4.2 fix (bug 242516)
- 3.5 M5 test/fix pass
- bug fixing
- M6 planning

User Assistance:
- milestone testing
- investigating server performance
- intro accessibility work

Workspace:
- inbox tracking
- 3.5 M5 fixing, testing, N&N
- working on 3.5 M6:
-
http://www.eclipse.org/eclipse/platform-team/team3.5/plan.php#m6
- vacation

Rel. Eng.:
- M5 delivered
- slowly recovering from PTMD (post-traumatic milestone disorder)
- 3.4.2 endgame
- testing M5 bundles in build, new DS bundles in SDK, composite repos,
ant task to create list of orbit bundles to exclude from signing,
fix categories in repo
- bug fixing

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