Hi,
Don't worry I wrote in a bad place, the next time I'll write to the newsgroup. I agree with you I wrote in the mailing-list because I thought it was faster.
>From: Ben Konrath <ben@xxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: eclipse-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
>To: eclipse-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [eclipse-dev] mailing lists and newsgroups
>Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 13:19:19 -0500
>
>Hi,
>
>I would like to take a bit of time to explain my inflammatory comments
>from yesterday. My comments weren't directed at anyone specifically, but
>were intended to be a bit of a criticism of some aspects of how the
>Eclipse project is run. Looking back, I should have taken the time to
>flush out my criticism and said this instead ...
>
>It's very common for Eclipse "users" to post messages to the mailing
>lists instead of to the newsgroups. Part of the reason for this is that
>it is *very* uncommon to separate user and development communities into
>newsgroups and mailing lists. Because the majority of people working on
>Eclipse are employees of IBM, I feel that there is a big separation
>between IBM employees and others. To me, the mailing lists vs.
>newsgroups is just another thing that promotes this separation, even if
>it's only a perceived separation.
>
>As far as communication is concerned, there is no significant difference
>between mailing lists and newsgroups. However, the way that they are
>used on eclipse.org seems to be different than other open source
>projects and this seems to confuse some users. Also, some people find
>that mailing lists are more convenient than newsgroups (the reverse may
>also be true, but for that gmane.org provides a nntp <-> smtp gateway
>and archive).
>
>Most Open Source projects that don't want to receive user questions on
>development lists create user lists. Here are some recommendations to
>make communication on eclipse.org better for users and developers:
>
>* remove dead mailing list (direct people to bugzilla if it's
> appropriate)
>* combine low traffic lists that have similar nature
>* change the newsgroups to user oriented mailing lists (although
> changing this might confuse users now that it's established)
>* provide read only access to lists without the need to log in to the
> website (of course, you should munge email addresses)
>
>I'm sure there are other recommendations people will have. I know from
>some bugs I have filed about this stuff that not all agree with me -
>that's fine, this is just my opinion. Besides, I'm not running the
>project :) Anyway, sorry if I offended anyone.
>
>Cheers, Ben
>
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