Re: [eclipse-dev] Combo packages proposal

[Mike Wilson <Mike_Wilson@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Why can't this just be done via install/update?

McQ.




Jeff McAffer/Ottawa/IBM@IBMCA 
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We have been battling with the packaging issue for years (literally).  For 
every person that asks for the combo pack, there is some one complaining 
that the SDK is too big.  For every person who wants WebTools, or VEP or, 
... there are people who don't.  Given that we have some 8 platforms to 
consider, each new packaging is quite a challenge to create, make 
available and maintain.  We also have to consider the impact on our 
mirrors.  Combo packs do not scale and they IMHO are fundamentally at odds 
with the component model put forward by Eclipse (i.e., why should Eclipse 
get to ship a huge wad when we tell everyone else to use components, 
update sites, ...) 

Don't get me wrong.  The problem you are encountering is real.  The 
approach I would prefer to see is embracing the component model and make 
it easy for people to a consistent set of the features/plugins they want. 
For example, imagine a site where you pick the base Eclipse version (e.g., 
2.1.2, 3.0M6, ...), the platform(s) and the components you want (by name). 
 The site then picks the appropriate zips, jars, ... , combines them into 
one zip and downloads it to you.  This sounds like an excellent 
opportunity for someone with web service, web app, php, ... experience to 
contribute to the Eclipse community in a real and tangible way. 

Jeff 



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Please, oh God! please do so
I find it frustrating to have to download these subprojects separately 
and have to read to see which version should I download for my eclipse 
version.
I think  I'd be a great help to these projects if they are more 
available for end users.

Sorry, for the comment not being a developer, I just think this would be 
great.

Ed Burnette wrote:

>With tools such as GEF and EMF being used by more and more people and 
projects, I propose that combination packages (which might be implemented 
as nested features) that are bigger than the SDK be created and made 
available for download. This will make it easier for users to identify, 
download, and install the software they need in one step instead of many 
steps. Ideally the schedule would be the same as the SDK.
>
>For example this combination would be helpful:
>
>    Platform SDK
>    Example plug-ins
>    FTP and WebDAV
>    GEF
>    EMF
>    XSD
>    VEP
>    WebTools (when available)
>
>Trying to match up version numbers for compatible features is a large and 
growing problem, and combo packages would help fix that. Instead of 8 
downloads, the user would just have one.
>
>--Ed
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