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Re: [eclipse-dev] Team/CVS Planning Meeting Notes - Nov 19, 2003


All: One of the focusses of Eclipse R3.0 is to make the UI more responsive by using background operations whenever possible. The preference to disable background CVS operations was only put in to allow us to continue to work while the CVS team worked out the bugs in their code, not as a user configuration option. Since the CVS support is now working well, and definitely does improve responsiveness on all platforms, the preference should be removed.

The argument for attaching it to the performance control (which I'm not sure I buy) is that, on a *very* slow machine, allowing even one background thread to run, impacts the system to the point where Eclipse would be unusable. (Of course, you were waiting before anyway, so it ought to not be worse.) In this case, since the CVS team understands the demands of their jobs better than anyone else, they can do a better job of controlling the behavior, up to and including, doing everything in the foreground. Personally, I don't think it makes sense to support two complete codepaths through CVS for this, but if it isn't causing them much grief, then it's fine with me.

McQ.



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-alvin


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> - CVS background work-in-progress options removed and instead linked to
> the workbench's "Machine Speed" preference.
> - Bug fixing and enhancements to the releng plug-in. A new plug-in has
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> http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/~checkout~/platform-releng-home/dev.html
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> - Still working on integration of SSH2 support into CVS. Our goal is to
> have a support for SSH2 in M6.
> - Continued work on integrating JSR147 WVCM into Team. Providing feedback
> as part of public review process of the API. If you are interested in a
> Team API you should take this chance to review the current draft API and
> provide comments to the working group.
> - Test plan for M5 can be found at:
> http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/~checkout~/platform-vcm-home/docs/online/team3.0/test_plan_3.0M5.html
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