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Re: [ecf-dev] ECF in mobile

Scott,

Perhaps I didn't understand well your wish and/or perhaps don't understand what you mean about releng... But if were about to do something related to ECF's Buckminster, honestly is out of my knowledge...


Cristiano

On 12/06/12 16:10, Scott Lewis wrote:
Hi Christiano,

I'm not sure if knowing Maven and Tycho really limits you (there's no particular requirement on what build tech is required/necessary to do this)...but ok.

Scott


On 6/12/2012 12:05 PM, Cristiano Gavião wrote:
Well,
Unfortunately I will not be able to help you with this releng task because the unique build tool that I'm know well is Maven and in the last couple years, Tycho.

cheers,

Cristiano

On 12/06/12 15:47, Scott Lewis wrote:
Christiano,

Regrettably, I haven't been able to keep these example/test apps maintained as ECF has moved forward.

My intention/desire these days is to work on the releng such that new versions of ECF could be automatically packaged for Android usage (for client and/or server for some protocols)...but like many other things, it remains a little out of reach (for resources/time)...at the moment.

Scott


On 6/12/2012 11:41 AM, Cristiano Gavião wrote:
Hi Scott,

I've tried to get it work today, but I couldn't because there were some API changes in latest ECF and I couldn't resolve in my short study time...

But I'll try again tomorrow...

thanks,

Cristiano

On 12/06/12 15:00, Scott Lewis wrote:
Hi Christiano,

Those are some of my early experiments.    The goals were to make some simple/test android clients...that use ECF for communication.

Scott


On 6/12/2012 8:36 AM, Cristiano Gavião wrote:
Hi,

I've found this project on github: https://github.com/ECF/Android

Could someone explain me what it is and the goals of this project?


thanks,

Cristiano

On 11/06/12 13:57, Scott Lewis wrote:
Christiano,

On 6/11/2012 8:51 AM, Cristiano Gavião wrote:
Hi guys,

I was reading this article: http://eclipse.dzone.com/articles/eclipse-indigo-highlights-ecf
and there is a nice video of one android app using ECF and Google Wave.

Google wave was discontinued, so what is the alternative in actual days for this kind of mobile applications ?

So...this effort (by Mustafa Isik and Sebastian Schmidt) used some of the ECF core classes...and, in fact whole plugins/jars...to support the Wave provider work [1].  These plugins/classes...and their runtime class dependencies...were added to the Android projects as library jars (I think)...and so were loaded/used at runtime without actually running a complete OSGi framework.

Running outside of OSGi is something that can be done with much...although not all...of ECF.   I do this myself with other parts of ECF (e.g. the shared object API)...in order to make it simple to create Android-based clients that can easily and extensibly communicate/message with ECF servers/services (that happen to run under a full OSGi framework).

There is some work (as yet undone) to do the releng associated with using the relevant parts of ECF in a non-OSGi environment.  For example, the creation of the non-bundle jars and the elimination of the unneeded classes from ECF, OSGi, and Equinox would be very desirable for this usage...along with creating a single distribution-ready Android library...rather than several jars.  Doing these things would make it much easier for people to consume/use ECF in Android environments.

One other point...although Google wave was discontinued as an application, I suspect Google would like to continue to use (and have others use) the wave protocol...i.e. [2].  This was the work upon which [1] is based, so I don't think this is completely out of the technical picture (although the Wave application is indeed discontinued).  But I'm not directly connected with the Wave protocol work these days...so I could be wrong on this.

Scott

[1] https://github.com/ECF/Wave
[2] http://www.waveprotocol.org/




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