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Re: [ecf-dev] ECF in mobile

Hey Scott,

thanks for the explanation. I will take a look in the links.

I'm developing a customer application were I'm using ECF (running in Equinox) and I'm planning to create an Android application to be able to push info from the server. So, I'm evaluating the options.

Btw, are you aware of any android app prototype in the web that is using ECF, so I could study it?

thanks and cheers,

Cristiano

On 11/06/12 13:57, Scott Lewis wrote:
Christiano,

On 6/11/2012 8:51 AM, Cristiano Gavião wrote:
Hi guys,

I was reading this article: http://eclipse.dzone.com/articles/eclipse-indigo-highlights-ecf
and there is a nice video of one android app using ECF and Google Wave.


Google wave was discontinued, so what is the alternative in actual days for this kind of mobile applications ?

So...this effort (by Mustafa Isik and Sebastian Schmidt) used some of the ECF core classes...and, in fact whole plugins/jars...to support the Wave provider work [1]. These plugins/classes...and their runtime class dependencies...were added to the Android projects as library jars (I think)...and so were loaded/used at runtime without actually running a complete OSGi framework.


Running outside of OSGi is something that can be done with much...although not all...of ECF. I do this myself with other parts of ECF (e.g. the shared object API)...in order to make it simple to create Android-based clients that can easily and extensibly communicate/message with ECF servers/services (that happen to run under a full OSGi framework).

There is some work (as yet undone) to do the releng associated with using the relevant parts of ECF in a non-OSGi environment. For example, the creation of the non-bundle jars and the elimination of the unneeded classes from ECF, OSGi, and Equinox would be very desirable for this usage...along with creating a single distribution-ready Android library...rather than several jars. Doing these things would make it much easier for people to consume/use ECF in Android environments.

One other point...although Google wave was discontinued as an application, I suspect Google would like to continue to use (and have others use) the wave protocol...i.e. [2]. This was the work upon which [1] is based, so I don't think this is completely out of the technical picture (although the Wave application is indeed discontinued). But I'm not directly connected with the Wave protocol work these days...so I could be wrong on this.

Scott

[1] https://github.com/ECF/Wave
[2] http://www.waveprotocol.org/




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