Re: [ecf-dev] ECF move to runtime project

[Thomas Hallgren <thomas@xxxxxxx>]

I've been using SVN for some time now and I'm very happy with it. I 
think that the multiple rename problem that Christian mentions has been 
fixed for some time and I have no issues with performance. There are two 
things worth considering though. One is the "lowest common denominator" 
that Scott brings up. The other is that although Subversive indeed is up 
to the task, you are still required to download the client libraries 
from a second update site that is external to eclipse.org. This is 
because the Eclipse EMO has some issues with LGPL that apparently won't 
get resolved near term.

Personally, I think that *if* the licensing issue could be resolved so 
that SVN could be provided through the "normal" update site, then SVN 
adoption *wouldn't* be an issue. The platform could easily integrate it 
into their build if need be. I would gladly help with that if needed. 
But that's a big *if* and *wouldn't*.

Regards,
Thomas Hallgren


Christian Campo wrote:
> just my 2 cent
>
> I was all in favor to use SVN until we used SVN within our company. 
> That was about 9 month ago or so. I think it has potential but still 
> ..... CVS is ...... less complicated
>
> Two issues that I remember
> - renaming class A to B and then to C wasnt possible with SVN. you 
> first had to check in the class with name B before you rename it 
> again....
> - and checking out stuff with SVN is slower then CVS (and I mean you 
> could tell it was slower without a clock)
>
> but again I am not contra SVN... features like keeping the history 
> when you rename are all worthwhile
>
> So I dont want to be in the middle of a SVN vs CVS war :-)
>
> so just by 2 cent as I said
>
> christian
>
> p.s. we went back to CVS, less hazzle....
>
> Am 03.09.2008 um 18:41 schrieb Scott Lewis:
>
> > Hi Markus,
> >
> > Markus Alexander Kuppe wrote:
> > > <stuff deleted>
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I know I've been nagging about this before, but what about slipping a
> > > switch from CVS to subversion into the rt move? Other Eclipse projects
> > > have already been using it successfully for a while, subversive is 
> > > up to
> > > the task and SVN's feature set is just worth it.
> >
> > I agree (about it being worth it).
> > My *only* hesitation is WRT the Equinox p2 and platform usage (and 
> > therefore build) of ECF.  Currently, we are building our own plugins 
> > and providing them to the platform so it probably would not be a 
> > major issue, but frankly given this bug:
> >
> > ...and the possibility of other pieces of ECF being consumed by 
> > Equinox, RT, and Eclipse (e.g. e.g. discovery, various providers, 
> > remote services, etc)...and the (hopefully forthcoming) new effort on 
> > shared build infrastructure...I want to try to make it as easy as 
> > possible for us to be flexible about scc and build...which leads me 
> > to the 'lowest common denominator'...i.e. CVS.
> >
> > Other comments/opinions welcome.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> >
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