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Re: [e4-dev] Stable build for 0.16
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Thanks Lars,
I was not aware of this. Your arguments are entirely understandable.
Regards,
Bernhard
Am 25.07.2014 um 18:13 schrieb Lars Vogel:
> Bernhard, reason is easy, nobody gets paid for e4 tools work and a release creates additional work.
>
> I personally prefer to spend my (non paid time) on e4 and platform code work.
>
> Tycho and SWTBot follow the same pattern, they are also in incubation AFAIK.
>
> Best regards, Lars
>
> Am 25.07.2014 17:12 schrieb "Bernhard Steppan" <bernhard@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
> Hi Olivier,
>
> Thanks for your remarks. I fully agree.
>
> It's really hard to convince other developers from the e4 platform with e4 tools v0.16 that are still in incubation. I don't have an answer why the e4 tools are not part of the Eclipse IDE. My suggestion is to integrate the e4 tools seamless into the IDE.
>
> Best,
> Bernhard
>
> Am 25.07.2014 um 13:14 schrieb Olivier Prouvost:
>
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am on holidays and cannot test the new release...
> >
> > Some remarks anyway :
> >
> > As tom said, I think the dialogs/windows node is really confusing and dialogs are not usable as it is today. It would be really interesting to start a new discussion on this topic as soon as possible to find together an operational and efficient solution. It should probably not appear as it is now in the stable version..
> >
> > Another remark concerns the release number .. Are the e4 platform and tools always considered as incubation projects ? In this case industry will not adopt it easily.. It is really the moment to have a 1.0 e4 tools version. I know it is psychological but it is important.
> >
> > For input parts I don ´t remeber the discussion which led to their deprecation. But AFAIK it would be possible to find them by annotation analysis (input part is a part having a method @Persist) ? This could be a new api on partservice to get them ?
> >
> > Regards
> > Olivier
> >
> >
> > Le 25 juil. 2014 à 12:58, Sopot Çela <sopotcela@xxxxxxxxx> a écrit :
> >
> >> I did some testing and I think we can 'release' this. We can address Tom's concerns along the way. I tested also the live editor and did not notice any freezing.
> >>
> >> Sopot
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Tom Schindl <tom.schindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> The editor currently allows to add dialogs & wizards who are provisional
> >> APIs, shouldn't the tooling show this to the user?
> >>
> >> Same goes for InputPart which is marked as deprecated - although I voted
> >> against that deprecation - and should be shown like this!
> >>
> >> I also just fixed a minor problem with CompositePart part which now
> >> allows you to set the title, icon, ... .
> >>
> >> Tom
> >>
> >> On 23.07.14 18:00, Lars Vogel wrote:
> >> > It is not yet solved, but Steven found a workaround. I recently noticed
> >> > that keybinding for cut and paste are also not working. I think we need
> >> > to fix that least the keybinding thing. I plan to look at that next week
> >> > (if no one else fixes it before that).
> >> >
> >> > Best regards, Lars
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 2014-07-22 15:59 GMT+02:00 Paul Webster <pwebster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > <mailto:pwebster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>:
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 4:46 AM, Lars Vogel <lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxx
> >> > <mailto:lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > I gave the e4 tools a quick test and if I open the "Live model
> >> > editor" the IDE freezes (reacts very slowly). Can someone retest?
> >> >
> >> > Bug report: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=439511
> >> > I think we should wait with publishing the tools to the market
> >> > place until this is fixed.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > What's the status of this? It's holding up our 0.16 stable checkpoint.
> >> >
> >> > Later,
> >> > Paul
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Paul Webster
> >> > Hi floor. Make me a sammich! - GIR
> >> >
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