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Re: [e4-dev] Themes for Eclipse 4
Hi Lars,

I did the theme with the help of your tutorial, a presentation and CSS Spy. Without CSS Spy it would be really really hard to do it, this plugin is really helpful. I'm still at the very beginning with the theme. There are many problems like the mentioned native widgets, the non-png 24 icons, etc. But we'll find a way to create something great.

Cheers
Roger

On Tuesday, 10. July 2012 at 15:38, Lars Vogel wrote:

Hi Roger, 

great news! Could you re-share the dark theme which you created? It look to me that it did not survive the forwarding. I assume you are past this point but I have a little Eclipse 4 CSS tutorial here: http://www.vogella.com/articles/Eclipse4CSS/article.html

If you do not use it already you should have a look at Brians CSS Spy which is also briefly described in the tutorial.

Best regards, Lars

2012/7/10 Eric Moffatt <emoffatt@xxxxxxxxxx>

Roger, I'm really glad for your attention to this ! We'll help out where ever we can...note that neither the SWT CSS bindings nor our use of them are cast in stone, if you see something you think would be useful just let us know and we'll work it out.

We also have the ability to use our CSS implementation as a query engine, able to respond in code with the value it would use for a particular control's CSS state.This has proven very useful when we want CSS control over something that's not intrinsic to any particular SWT widget (the minimized stack's 'frame' is done this way using a utility class called CSSRenderingUtils).  One use that I haven't implemented yet is that we should be able to define images to fill the sash gutters but keep it in mind, we're not strictly limited to the SWT bindings themselves.

If you need anything else just drop me a line...

BTW, I've added the 'e4-dev' list to the CC so that we can move the discussion to a wider auduence...

Onwards,
Eric



From: John Arthorne/Ottawa/IBM
To: Roger Dudler <roger.dudler@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Bogdan Gheorghe/Ottawa/IBM@IBMCA, Brian de Alwis <briandealwis@xxxxxxxxx>, Eric Moffatt/Ottawa/IBM@IBMCA
Date: 07/06/2012 02:09 PM
Subject: Re: Themes for Eclipse 4



The dark theme looks great! I'll defer to others for the more technical questions. Some people are on holiday this week so your best bet might be to fire a question to the list and see how is around to answer. Anyway, great stuff. I look forward to seeing more.

John




Roger Dudler <roger.dudler@xxxxxxxxx>

07/06/2012 12:29 PM

To
John Arthorne/Ottawa/IBM@IBMCA
cc
Bogdan Gheorghe/Ottawa/IBM@IBMCA, Brian de Alwis <briandealwis@xxxxxxxxx>, Eric Moffatt/Ottawa/IBM@IBMCA
Subject
Re: Themes for Eclipse 4





Hey John,

After some hours I managed to create a basic dark theme. It still needs some work for all special properties, but it already looks cool :)

I will continue to work on this dark theme and let you know when it's finished. After I've discovered the necessary set of properties, we can generate themes based on editor color themes on http://eclipsecolorthemes.org. That's a massively requested feature. People will love it :)

I have some questions / comments, maybe you can help:

- Is there a way to get PNG icons with alpha transparency instead of those with the white pixels around them?
- Am I right that many of the CSS definitions don't inherit their styles from parent rules?
- The theme switcher in "Appearance" is a little bit buggy and doesn't reflect the current version of the CSS all the time (not easy to handle, when creating themes)

PS: I signed up to the e4-dev mailing list and will post additional feedback there

Cheers
Roger

On Friday, 6. July 2012 at 15:22, John Arthorne wrote:

Hi Roger,

I have added Bogdan Gheorghe to the CC list, who is our main platform styling expert. There is some reasonable documentation to get started with here:

http://wiki.eclipse.org/Eclipse4/RCP/CSS
http://wiki.eclipse.org/E4/CSS/SWT_Mapping

More questions welcome though. e4-dev would be a good place to ask questions because most of the CSS styling experts hang out there:

http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/e4-dev/

John



Ian Skerrett <ian.skerrett@xxxxxxxxxxx>

07/06/2012 09:03 AM


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Brian de Alwis <briandealwis@xxxxxxxxx>, Eric Moffatt/Ottawa/IBM@IBMCA, John Arthorne/Ottawa/IBM@IBMCA, Roger Dudler <roger.dudler@xxxxxxxxx>
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Subject
Fwd: Re: Themes for Eclipse 4







Eric, Brian and John,

I would like to introduce you to Roger Dudler.  Roger is one of the co-developers of the very popular Eclipse Color Theme plugin.  Roger is interested in seeing if he could do some Eclipse 4 CSS themes but he is finding the documentation lacking.  :-(

Do you guys know of any examples or pointers Roger could use?   I think it would be a huge win for Eclipse 4 if we could get Roger's plugin to be supporting Eclipse 4 CSS Themes.

Thanks
Ian


-------- Original Message --------
Subject:
Re: Themes for Eclipse 4
Date:
Fri, 6 Jul 2012 08:53:53 +0200
From:
Roger Dudler <roger.dudler@xxxxxxxxx>
To:
Ian Skerrett <ian.skerrett@xxxxxxxxxxx>




Hey,

I'm definitely interested in creating a platform/builder for Eclipse 4 themes. Maybe it might be a good kickstart to just create one really good one by ourself, because I've not found any themes out there yet. It still seems to be difficult or because lack of documentation. I'll look into it and try to create a dark theme based on the new theming css. This is what I can do first. You can support me by sending links/documents about the new theming features for a better start (if you have some secret ones ;).

Cheers
Roger

On Thursday, 5. July 2012 at 20:51, Ian Skerrett wrote:

Roger,

Not sure how much I can contribute but I will certainly help promote any effort to the Eclipse community.

There has been some discussion about have a competition to create different Eclipse 4 themes.   Maybe we can create a community effort to do it?

Ian



On 7/4/2012 3:51 PM, Roger Dudler wrote:
Hey Ian,

We haven't had a talk about Eclipse 4 yet. I'll need to check that with Felix, the other developer. It would be nice to just have an Eclipse 4 version available for all current themes. I'm not sure how easy the mapping will be from the old hundreds of settings to the new ones. Are you interested in contributing to the topic?

Cheers
Roger

On Wednesday, 4. July 2012 at 21:03, Ian Skerrett wrote:

Hi Roger,

Does Eclipse Themes work with Eclipse 4?  Eclipse 4 is a lot easier to create different themes, so I was wondering if you guys have considered doing something specific for Eclipse 4?

I hope things are well.

Ian

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Ian Skerrett
VP of Marketing and Ecosystem
Eclipse Foundation
Tel: 613-224-9461 ext 227
Blog: ianskerrett.wordpress.com
Twitter: IanSkerrett


--
Ian Skerrett
VP of Marketing and Ecosystem
Eclipse Foundation
Tel: 613-224-9461 ext 227
Blog: ianskerrett.wordpress.com
Twitter: IanSkerrett

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