Re: [e4-dev] ribbon experiment on e4?

[Susan Franklin McCourt <susan_franklin@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi, Tom...
cool, sorry for missing that.
So what would be kind of cool is to compare your changes with the kind of changes Elias had to make in 3.5 stream...

susan

Tom Schindl ---01/05/2010 11:46:00 AM---Hi Susan,

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Hi Susan,

I've done this already multiple times because all my presentations about
e4 end with a demo where the AddressBook-Demo from Kai is rendered with
a Ribbon and a PShelf.

It's quite likely that this code doesn't compile anymore against the
latest HEAD-Revisions but updating it to get in sync with HEAD shouldn't
be a problem.

I've never committed this to e4-CVS because of IP-Issues when using the
Ribbon anyways the code is available from my personal SVN-Repository [1].

Tom

[1]https://svn.tomsondev.com/svn/ufacekit/desktop/org.ufacekit.ui.e4.renderer/src/org/ufacekit/ui/e4/renderer/

Am 05.01.10 20:27, schrieb Susan Franklin McCourt:
> Hi, again, Elias...
> Some of us on the platform UI team were talking today about your
> screencast. We were thinking that an e4 implementation (where you change
> the workbench application model and the renderer for the toolbar/menus
> to use the ribbon) would be a great way to push the e4 application model
> implementation and rendering model.
> 
> We don't have the compatibility workbench back up yet, but you could
> start by trying to "ribbonize" one of the demos.
> 
> It would be really interesting to hear your report of how hard it was to
> change Eclipse 3.x to use the ribbon compared to doing so in e4. In
> theory, it would be simpler (or at least cleaner from a code
> perspective) to do so in e4. If this is not the case, we'd want to know!
> 
> Interested?
> 
> susan
> ----- Forwarded by Susan Franklin McCourt/Beaverton/IBM on 01/05/2010
> 11:20 AM -----
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>                         *Susan Franklin McCourt*
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> Hi, Elias.
> Great screencast! I found that the live demo really helped, in
> particular emphasizing how the ribbon groupings depict the perspective
> switch. I found that the perspective change seems less "jarring" to me
> when selected that way, though I'd have to really use it to confirm this
> feeling. It was also cool to see the menu bar popping in.
> 
> We have numerous bugs about using the ribbon, but I didn't see one
> tracking the question of "should we use this in the Eclipse SDK UI?" so
> I opened one. [1]. I marked it with a 4.0 milestone, but I realize
> there's no technical reason it would have to be in 4.0. I do think that
> it will become interesting to consider the ribbon organization when
> considering the other visual design changes for 4.0 [2].
> 
> susan
> 
> [1] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=298481
> [2] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=293481
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> Inactive hide details for Elias Volanakis ---12/19/2009 03:57:17 PM---On
> Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Susan Franklin McCourt < Elias Volanakis
> ---12/19/2009 03:57:17 PM---On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Susan
> Franklin McCourt < susan_franklin@xxxxxxxxxx
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>                         *Elias Volanakis <elias@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>*
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> 
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Susan Franklin McCourt
> <_susan_franklin@xxxxxx.com_ <mailto:susan_franklin@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> 
>       Also, do you have a link (blog, bug, whatever) to the preferred
>       place where we can monitor your experiments in the ribbon space?
>       Fun to watch....
> 
> 
> Susan and e4-dev,
> 
> I've begun to blog about my ribbon experiments (with a short
> screencast): _http://eclipsenuggets.blogspot.com_
> <http://eclipsenuggets.blogspot.com/>
> 
> The code is available on github under EPL
> (_http:/github.com/elias42/ribbonide_
> <http://github.com/elias42/ribbonide>), but it still needs some work
> before I could ship something genuinely useful. 
> 
> Technically it is based on Eclipse 3.5.x. It provides an application for
> the IDE that adds the ribbon widget via the window advisor and a custom
> presentation. My goal is to flesh these things out over the holidays.
> 
> Elias.
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