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Re: [e4-dev] RE: [ve-dev] VE roadmap
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Hi Olivier,
To summerize that. You are willing to work on a e4-visual-tooling for
the workbench model (Application.xmi) which can be extended later on by
integrators to not only model the workbench but also the inner parts.
I think this proposal is a perfect fit for e4 because we don't have any
e4-workbench-model tooling in the pipe though we all agree that we need
tooling! So your proposal sounds great and I can nominate you as a
committer.
Tom
Olivier Moïses schrieb:
> Hi Yves, Hallvard & E4 team.
>
> Hallvard is right. I work on a visual designer for wazaabi (called
> Architect) for several months.
> The principle is to render in some place the UI model and copy it's
> image into GEF. Of course, the user never sees the rendered UI model, he
> just deals with the GEF diagram.
> Every UI components are translated into GEF transparent figures and
> support specific behavior (insertion point in case of layout, direct
> editing in case of buttons, textfields etc....). An outline is available
> and functional (and of course property edition)
>
> There is some other important points :
> * the palette is based on a EMF model, which allow to add new
> UIComponents to the palette easily (component behavior will be added
> soon to palette model)
> * the palette support addition of existing UI models, in other words, if
> the user wants to reuse an existing template, he could add it to the palette
> * the mechanism is based on a double model : source model & view model.
> The source model is the model the user edits, the view model is the
> model the user sees. This feature allows, for instance, to visually
> edit XAML or XUL model while the rendering will be done in wazaabi SWT
> using live m2m transformations (it is done at the moment with an
> emerging IceFaces./JSF model, it is incubation)
> * Architect is under EPL.
>
> One last thing: it has not been tested under other platforms than XP &
> Vista at the moment.
>
> I think I could easily remove most of the wazaabi dependencies and use
> the existing mechanism with few changes in order to edit E4 modeled
> workbench (I need to use SWT or SWT based renderers). It could be done
> on higher level (with no detailed content of parts). Of course, using
> modeled workbench and wazaabi will provide a way to describe the whole
> UI, but that will not be a requirement
>
> I'm interested in becoming a committer and will really be happy to
> contribute !
>
> Olivier Moïses
>
>
>
> 2009/12/2 Hallvard Trætteberg <hal@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:hal@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
>
> I believe Olivier Moïses is working on a visual designer for Wazaabi
> that may be a good starting point for one for the e4 workbench. The
> architecture of the workbench model and renderer is fairly similar
> to Wazaabi's, so the visual designer may not be too difficult to adapt.
>
> Perhaps Olivier should be asked to contribute?
>
> Hallvard
>
>
> yves (yingmin) yang wrote:
>
> Visual tooling is very important to simplify the UI development.
> Recently,
> e4 has planned to develop a graphic designer for e4 workbench.
> Soyatec has
> decided to contribute a XWT designer. And Soyatec is interested
> in the
> integration of the two designers.
> As for Eclipse VE, a Java-based tool, VE team will keep it up to
> date with
> eclipse main stream. There is no major features planned in the
> next release.
>
>
> Best regards
> Yves YANG
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> Subject: [ve-dev] VE roadmap
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> Hello,
>
> Is there any plan that Eclipse VE will be part of e4?
>
> In any case, what is the roadmap for Eclipse VE?
> Thanks and regards,
>
> Janak
>
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