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Re: [e4-dev] e4 0.9 splash screen?

FYI, pond5 makes small resolution movies available.  for example the 90M HD is also available in convenient splash screen sized at about 900k.
    http://s3.amazonaws.com/p5cdnp/000286524_prev_264.mov
For movies Andrew N did a demo some time ago at EclipseCon.  I don't remember it being jumpy but ...  Not sure about widget kits etc as the movie would be played back by some other app say embedded in a browser widget or some such. Presumably there is some ultrasmall MP4/QT/... player code available.

Jeff

Kevin McGuire wrote:

> A 90MB HD is absolutely not practical ;-)

If we found a video we really liked we could transcode it to get the size down to something reasonable for distribution but which also looked good (we don't need an HD splash ;>).  It's a small area and not visible long.

The other issues on threading I agree with, just saying that the commercial animation file sizes wouldn't be the limiting factor in practice.

Kevin




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A 90MB HD is absolutely not practical ;-) That's about the same size as a packaged Eclipse download! There are some good ideas on that site, but maybe not feasible for direct use. I think a sequence of images is probably the best way to do some animation. <crazy idea> What if were to use some rendering - ala- the old 4K assembler "demoscene" that was popular back in the day fit minutes worth of animation into 4kb. </crazy>


As far as the choppy video is concerned. Most (all?) widget toolkits are single threaded. So if the startup sequence needs the UI, it needs to multiplexed to run alongside the animation already running on the UI. While it is on the UI thread it prevents the animation from running making it choppy. This is also a little far out - would it be possible to create an additional SWT Display (which would have its own independent event loop) just for the splash screen? The splash event loop would then be completely separate from the applications event loop.




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Some form of animation should be possible, but I think a 90MB HD video isn't going to be practical. I wasn't able to get a smooth video showing without halting the startup sequence, which sort of defeats the purpose of the splash. If the video runs concurrently with the startup sequence (which needs periodic access to the UI thread), the animation is quite choppy. Ben is experimenting with a different approach that iterates through a sequence of static images, which is looking much nicer. See discussion in bug
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=280462.

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Me too, it's very nice!


OK if we're serious about this we'd need to sort out the legal.  I looked at the terms and while they're pretty permissive, this one concerns me:


http://www.pond5.com/index.php?page=legal&agr=rfla
3.4 Trademarks


        Licensee shall not incorporate the Licensed Content into a logo, trademark or service mark.

The splash screen feels close to that, though not exactly.


All that aside, I gather from John that animation in the splash may not be technically possible (?).


Kevin

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I like this one very much:
http://www.pond5.com/stock-footage/286524/earth-eclipse.html

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Yep, niiiiice...except for the color (and that there should be four bright dots 'dawning'...;-)  it's sweet !

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I'm lurking on this list, but I want to say that I really like the animated splash screen you just posted. Very good work. I think there is something missing. I think it would be really cool if there was even more spacey sci-fi feel. Like the latest Star Trek movie - with a lens flare ;-) I did a quick search and found some stock video (available for $$$) that looks like something I was envisioning:


http://www.pond5.com/stock-footage/311672/red-eclipse-2.html



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Mindaugas Idzelis

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Looks cool!

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Here is a first attempt of a shiny animated splashscreen
http://www.benjamin-cabe.com/e4/e4-splashR.htm :-)
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Eric Moffatt a écrit :


Beauty, I love it !
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Good idea, another suggestion for an animation would be the shine effect, often used in Movie/Game trailers.

See
http://www.trapcode.com/products_shine.html or
http://www.gfx-sector.de/Videtutorial-Adobe-After-Effects-Shine-Effect.t25455.html

An Eclipse with shine effect would be lovely
J

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What about an animated splash? I think that animation (done non-cheesey, not limking/flashing but something subtle) would go some ways towards upping the 'ooooh' factor...something like:


Opens with the regular galileo splash but then 'cross fades' to a similar image but with four points of light aroung the edges of the eclipse (google "Bailey's beads", this is an actual artifact of an eclipse...;-) as the 'eclipse' fodes over into 'e4'...


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Toedter, Kai wrote:
> Any suggestions how to get a really cool e4 logo?

What about using thw existing Eclipse logo, but make it the shape of a
cloud (and replace "Eclipse" with "e4". This could indicate e4 is a bit
fuzzy, still some vapour and give hint of cloud computing?

Do we have an Eclipse logo without the Eclipse name, to start from?

Hallvard

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> We need a splash screen for the 0.9 Eclipse/e4 SDK, it currently comes
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