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RE: [dsdp-tm-dev] TM M5 done
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Hi Martin,
sorry, missed the question.
Yes, I was planning to look into "empty password" issue,
but not sure yet about 194473, it depends on how much time I have for
the open source work in the nearest future.
On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 15:49 +0100, Oberhuber, Martin wrote:
> Hi Xuan,
>
> In my opinion, the "Experimental" tag that was visible for the telnet
> runtime in M4 was an erroneous left-over from earlier days.
>
> Telnet has left incubation state very long ago and plugin / feature
> versions are currently at 1.2 / 2.0 / 2.2.
> Anna has recently invested quite a bit of work into making Terminals
> as well as shell processes work over telnet.
> For TM 3.1 I'm confident that we can call telnet a supported part of
> our offering -- perhaps the only missing bit at the moment is making
> the login procedure (connectorservice) more robust, see bug 194473 and
> bug 251484. Anna, could you commit working on these for M6 or M7?
>
> I do acknowledge the fact that removing the downloads that you got
> used to was not announced sufficiently.
> If you think that you need them for M5, I can re-create them manually
> for M5.
>
> But in the longer run, I see that all Eclipse projects are moving
> towards fewer downloads since that's what the majority of the
> Community wants. They want to get simple all-in-one packages rather
> than having to do multiple downloads from a confusing page with lots
> of options. I think that as product builders, it is your
> responsibility to pick the features that you need out of such an
> all-in-one download -- or delete what you do not need.
>
> Please let me know if you think I should manually create those legacy
> ZIPs. We can also discuss the longer term strategy, but I must say
> that my opinion is pretty strong so I'm likely not easily swayed :-)
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Martin Oberhuber, Senior Member of Technical Staff, Wind River
> Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
> http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm
>
>
>
>
> ______________________________________________________________
> From: Xuan Chen [mailto:xuanchen@xxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Samstag, 14. Februar 2009 04:30
> To: Oberhuber, Martin
> Cc: David McKnight; David Dykstal; Kevin J Doyle
> Subject: RE: [dsdp-tm-dev] TM M5 done
>
>
>
>
> Hi Martin,
>
> Thanks for the information.
>
> For our internal IBM Eclipse project, we expect the downloads
> are coming from our Eclipse mirror site. So your suggestion
> may not be a good solution for us.
>
> I checked with Dave D, Dave M, and Kevin, and we all agreed
> that telnet plugin should not be included in RSE-runtime.zip
> package since it is still in experimental state. Could you
> please separate it out from RSE-rumtime.zip file? Thanks.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Xuan Chen, Problem Determination Tools for IBM i
> (905) 413-3769 T/L 313-3769
> xuanchen@xxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
>
> "Oberhuber, Martin"
> <Martin.Oberhuber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> 13/02/2009 04:06 PM
>
>
> To
> Xuan
> Chen/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA
> cc
> "David Dykstal"
> <david_dykstal@xxxxxxxxxx>, David McKnight/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA, Kevin J Doyle/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA
> Subject
> RE:
> [dsdp-tm-dev]
> TM M5 done
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> Can't you just unzip the runtime-zip and delete whatever you
> don't like?
> A script is as simple as
>
> unzip RSE-runtime-*.zip
> for x in telnet terminal ; do
> rm -rf eclipse/features/*${x}*
> rm -rf eclipse/plugins/*${x}*
> done
> zip -a -r RSE-runtime-for-xuan.zip eclipse
>
> The combined zip isn't anything different than the contents of
> the runtime-* you mention plus telnet.
> Terminal has been a sub-feature of runtime for a while
> already, and was eliminated as a separate download 4 weeks ago
> (or probably more).
>
> BTW, for galileo there are efforts to even further reduce the
> number of downloads (and go with a single archived update site
> aka p2 repository). See the cross-project mailing list
> archives.
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Martin Oberhuber, Senior Member of Technical Staff, Wind
> River
> Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
> http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm
>
>
>
>
> ______________________________________________________________
> From: Xuan Chen [mailto:xuanchen@xxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Donnerstag, 12. Februar 2009 18:44
> To: Oberhuber, Martin
> Cc: David Dykstal; David McKnight; Kevin J Doyle
> Subject: Fw: [dsdp-tm-dev] TM M5 done
> Importance: High
>
>
> Hi Martin,
>
> I've noticed that for 3.1 M5 download page, there is no
> section for Client Runtime Binaries any more (in M4, there
> was).
>
> Kevin pointed me a link to this bug:
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=263189: Reduce
> the number of downloads.
>
> It seems to me because of the fix for this bug, we need to use
> RSE-runtime-3.1M5.zip instead of our individual client runtime
> zips we droped to our IBM project. I checked with the project
> lead for IBM internal project, and he mentioned as long as
> there is no new code than before, we should be fine. But if
> there are new contents, then there will be quite a lot legal
> implications we need to resolve.
>
> I checked this RSE-runtime-3.1M5.zip, and found out it
> contains both terminal and telnet. But we did not include
> those in our internal drop before.
> (We only included:
> RSE-runtime-core-3.1M4.zip
> RSE-runtime-dstore-3.1M4.zip
> RSE-runtime-ftp-3.1M4.zip
> RSE-runtime-local-3.1M4.zip
> RSE-runtime-ssh-3.1M4.zip
> )
>
> I was wondering if you can create a separate download which
> only include the contents of the five zip files I mentioned
> above?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Xuan Chen, Problem Determination Tools for IBM i
> (905) 413-3769 T/L 313-3769
> xuanchen@xxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> ----- Forwarded by Xuan Chen/Toronto/IBM on 12/02/2009 12:05
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> Hi all,
>
> the TM 3.1M5 build is available for insiders (not yet
> public):
> http://download.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/downloads/drops/S-3.1M5-200902081925/
>
> I added the Team/Synchronization integration. Since that
> requires Java 1.5, the org.eclipse.rse.importexport plugin now
> requires Java 1.5. I also switched to using individual source
> bundles (as a Galileo Requirement).
>
> Give it a try before I make it public!
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Martin Oberhuber, Senior Member of Technical Staff, Wind
> River
> Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
> http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm
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