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RE: [dsdp-tm-dev] TM M5 done
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Hi Xuan,
In my opinion, the "Experimental" tag that was visible for
the telnet runtime in M4 was an erroneous left-over from earlier
days.
Telnet has left incubation state very long ago and plugin /
feature versions are currently at 1.2 / 2.0 / 2.2.
Anna has recently invested quite a bit of work into making
Terminals as well as shell processes work over telnet.
For TM 3.1 I'm confident that we can call telnet a
supported part of our offering -- perhaps the only missing bit at the moment is
making the login procedure (connectorservice) more robust, see bug
194473 and bug 251484.
Anna, could you commit working on these for M6 or M7?
I do
acknowledge the fact that removing the downloads that you got used to was not
announced sufficiently.
If you
think that you need them for M5, I can re-create them manually for
M5.
But in
the longer run, I see that all Eclipse projects are moving towards fewer
downloads since that's what the majority of the Community wants. They want to
get simple all-in-one packages rather than having to do multiple downloads from
a confusing page with lots of options. I think that as product
builders, it is your responsibility to pick the features that you need out of
such an all-in-one download -- or delete what you do not
need.
Please
let me know if you think I should manually create those legacy ZIPs. We can also
discuss the longer term strategy, but I must say that my opinion is pretty
strong so I'm likely not easily swayed :-)
Cheers,
--
Martin Oberhuber, Senior Member of Technical
Staff, Wind River
Target Management Project
Lead, DSDP PMC Member
Hi Martin,
Thanks for the information.
For our internal IBM Eclipse project, we expect the
downloads are coming from our Eclipse mirror site. So your suggestion
may not be a good solution for us.
I checked with Dave D, Dave M, and Kevin, and we all agreed that telnet
plugin should not be included in RSE-runtime.zip package since it is still in
experimental state. Could you please separate it out from
RSE-rumtime.zip file? Thanks.
Thanks,
Xuan Chen, Problem Determination Tools for IBM
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(905) 413-3769 T/L
313-3769
xuanchen@xxxxxxxxxx
"Oberhuber, Martin"
<Martin.Oberhuber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
13/02/2009 04:06 PM
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Can't you just unzip the runtime-zip and delete whatever you
don't like?
A script is as
simple as
unzip RSE-runtime-*.zip
for x in telnet terminal ; do
rm -rf
eclipse/features/*${x}*
rm -rf eclipse/plugins/*${x}*
done
zip -a
-r RSE-runtime-for-xuan.zip eclipse
The combined zip isn't anything
different than the contents of the runtime-* you mention plus telnet.
Terminal has been a sub-feature of
runtime for a while already, and was eliminated as a separate download 4 weeks
ago (or probably more).
BTW, for galileo there are efforts to even
further reduce the number of downloads (and go with a single archived update
site aka p2 repository). See the cross-project mailing list archives.
Cheers,
--
Martin Oberhuber, Senior
Member of Technical Staff, Wind River
Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm
From: Xuan Chen [mailto:xuanchen@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Donnerstag, 12. Februar 2009 18:44
To: Oberhuber,
Martin
Cc: David Dykstal; David McKnight; Kevin J
Doyle
Subject: Fw: [dsdp-tm-dev] TM M5 done
Importance:
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Hi
Martin,
I've
noticed that for 3.1 M5 download page, there is no section for Client Runtime
Binaries any more (in M4, there was).
Kevin pointed me a link to this bug:
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=263189: Reduce
the number of downloads.
It seems to me because of the fix for this bug, we need to use
RSE-runtime-3.1M5.zip instead of our individual client runtime zips we droped
to our IBM project. I checked with the project lead for IBM internal
project, and he mentioned as long as there is no new code than before, we
should be fine. But if there are new contents, then there will be quite
a lot legal implications we need to resolve.
I checked this
RSE-runtime-3.1M5.zip, and found out it contains both terminal and telnet.
But we did not include those in our internal drop before.
(We only
included:
RSE-runtime-core-3.1M4.zip
RSE-runtime-dstore-3.1M4.zip
RSE-runtime-ftp-3.1M4.zip
RSE-runtime-local-3.1M4.zip
RSE-runtime-ssh-3.1M4.zip
)
I was wondering if you can create a separate
download which only include the contents of the five zip files I mentioned
above?
Thanks,
Xuan Chen, Problem Determination Tools for IBM
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(905) 413-3769 T/L 313-3769
xuanchen@xxxxxxxxxx
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Hi all,
the TM 3.1M5 build is available
for insiders (not yet public):
http://download.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/downloads/drops/S-3.1M5-200902081925/
I added the
Team/Synchronization integration. Since that requires Java 1.5, the
org.eclipse.rse.importexport plugin now requires Java 1.5. I also switched to
using individual source bundles (as a Galileo Requirement).
Give it a try before I
make it public!
Thanks,
--
Martin Oberhuber, Senior Member of Technical Staff,
Wind River
Target Management
Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm
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