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RE: [dsdp-tm-dev] TM M5 done

Hi Xuan,
 
In my opinion, the "Experimental" tag that was visible for the telnet runtime in M4 was an erroneous left-over from earlier days.
 
Telnet has left incubation state very long ago and plugin / feature versions are currently at 1.2 / 2.0 / 2.2.
Anna has recently invested quite a bit of work into making Terminals as well as shell processes work over telnet.
For TM 3.1 I'm confident that we can call telnet a supported part of our offering -- perhaps the only missing bit at the moment is making the login procedure (connectorservice) more robust, see bug 194473 and bug 251484. Anna, could you commit working on these for M6 or M7?
 
I do acknowledge the fact that removing the downloads that you got used to was not announced sufficiently.
If you think that you need them for M5, I can re-create them manually for M5.
 
But in the longer run, I see that all Eclipse projects are moving towards fewer downloads since that's what the majority of the Community wants. They want to get simple all-in-one packages rather than having to do multiple downloads from a confusing page with lots of options. I think that as product builders, it is your responsibility to pick the features that you need out of such an all-in-one download -- or delete what you do not need.
 
Please let me know if you think I should manually create those legacy ZIPs. We can also discuss the longer term strategy, but I must say that my opinion is pretty strong so I'm likely not easily swayed :-)
 
Cheers,
--
Martin Oberhuber, Senior Member of Technical Staff, Wind River
Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm
 
 


From: Xuan Chen [mailto:xuanchen@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Samstag, 14. Februar 2009 04:30
To: Oberhuber, Martin
Cc: David McKnight; David Dykstal; Kevin J Doyle
Subject: RE: [dsdp-tm-dev] TM M5 done


Hi Martin,

Thanks for the information.

For our internal IBM Eclipse project, we expect the downloads are coming from our Eclipse mirror site.   So your suggestion may not be a good solution for us.

I checked with Dave D, Dave M, and Kevin, and we all agreed that telnet plugin should not be included in RSE-runtime.zip package since it is still in experimental state.  Could you please separate it out from RSE-rumtime.zip file?  Thanks.

Thanks,

Xuan Chen,  Problem Determination Tools for IBM i
(905) 413-3769 T/L 313-3769
xuanchen@xxxxxxxxxx




"Oberhuber, Martin" <Martin.Oberhuber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

13/02/2009 04:06 PM

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Can't you just unzip the runtime-zip and delete whatever you don't like?
A script is as simple as
 
  unzip RSE-runtime-*.zip
  for x in telnet terminal ; do
    rm -rf eclipse/features/*${x}*
    rm -rf eclipse/plugins/*${x}*
  done
  zip -a -r RSE-runtime-for-xuan.zip eclipse
 
The combined zip isn't anything different than the contents of the runtime-* you mention plus telnet.
Terminal has been a sub-feature of runtime for a while already, and was eliminated as a separate download 4 weeks ago (or probably more).
 
BTW, for galileo there are efforts to even further reduce the number of downloads (and go with a single archived update site aka p2 repository). See the cross-project mailing list archives.
 
Cheers,
--
Martin Oberhuber, Senior Member of Technical Staff, Wind River
Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm
 
 


From: Xuan Chen [mailto:xuanchen@xxxxxxxxxx]
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Donnerstag, 12. Februar 2009 18:44
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Oberhuber, Martin
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Hi Martin,


I've noticed that for 3.1 M5 download page, there is no section for Client Runtime Binaries any more (in M4, there was).


Kevin pointed me a link to this bug:

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=263189:   Reduce the number of downloads.


It seems to me because of the fix for this bug, we need to use RSE-runtime-3.1M5.zip instead of our individual client runtime zips we droped to our IBM project.  I checked with the project lead for IBM internal project, and he mentioned as long as there is no new code than before, we should be fine.  But if there are new contents, then there will be quite a lot legal implications we need to resolve.


I checked this RSE-runtime-3.1M5.zip, and found out it contains both terminal and telnet.  But we did not include those in our internal drop before.  

(We only included:

RSE-runtime-core-3.1M4.zip
RSE-runtime-dstore-3.1M4.zip
RSE-runtime-ftp-3.1M4.zip
RSE-runtime-local-3.1M4.zip
RSE-runtime-ssh-3.1M4.zip
)


I was wondering if you can create a separate download which only include the contents of the five zip files I mentioned above?



Thanks,

Xuan Chen,  Problem Determination Tools for IBM i
(905) 413-3769 T/L 313-3769
xuanchen@xxxxxxxxxx


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Hi all,

 

the TM 3.1M5 build is available for insiders (not yet public):

http://download.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/downloads/drops/S-3.1M5-200902081925/
 

I added the Team/Synchronization integration. Since that requires Java 1.5, the org.eclipse.rse.importexport plugin now requires Java 1.5. I also switched to using individual source bundles (as a Galileo Requirement).

 

Give it a try before I make it public!

 

Thanks,

--

Martin Oberhuber
, Senior Member of Technical Staff,
Wind River
Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member

http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm
 
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