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[dsdp-tm-dev] RE: [cdt-dev] RE: Contribution questionnaire

Title: Contribution questionnaire

Thanks, Martin. I agree this is the best plan going forward. RSE provides much of the framework needed to get these features working and would be easier for the community to maintain.

 

Doug Schaefer, QNX Software Systems
Eclipse CDT Project Lead, http://cdtdoug.blogspot.com


From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Oberhuber, Martin
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 10:04 AM
To: Kumar, Virender
Cc: Target Management developer discussions; CDT General developers list.; PDL ECLIPSE INDIA
Subject: [cdt-dev] RE: Contribution questionnaire

 

Hello Virender,

 

RSE is a framework and vehicle for communications.

Our CDT integration right now is rather thin:

  • Remote debugging through gdbserver
  • EFS provider to allow remote resources in the workspace

I think the best solution were if the other features that you provide:

  • Remote build
  • Remote debugging though remote gdb instance

would be implemented using the RSE framework for transport.

That would allow extenders to easily change the transport, e.g. use

telnet or rlogin or ssh or whatever they have.

 

Please let me know if you provide other features that I do not yet know about,

or if you have concerns about this proposal. Programming inside the RSE framwork

is pretty easy, your best starting point is the EclipseCon2007 TM Tutorial, which

includes sample code and a good presentation. See the TM homepage, getting

started or the FAQ for where to find it.

 

Since your extensions are more tightly coupled with CDT, I think I'd see your

plugin rather live in the CDT than in TM. But this can be discussed between the

TM and CDT communities.

Cheers,
--
Martin Oberhuber
Wind River Systems, Inc.
Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm

 

 


From: Kumar, Virender [mailto:virender.kumar@xxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 9:57 AM
To: Oberhuber, Martin
Cc: PDL ECLIPSE INDIA
Subject: RE: Contribution questionnaire

Hello Martin

 

At HP, we are working on development of a C/C++ remote developer plugin. There is a bugzilla entry for its code submission (Bug 168048).


The community had expressed concerns about potential duplication with RSE. We are interested in having detailed discussions with the TM/RSE team to assess the possibility of addressing these concerns.

 

So, as a starting point we would like to get some insight about expectations of the TM/RSE community. It might address the following also.

 

Would we need to work within the RSE framework, and contribute some add-ons to it ? Or can our plugin be a different sub-project within TM/RSE project ?

 

 

To us, there seems to be a significant difference between the functionality that RSE and our plugin provide. The approach taken is also quite different. We can give a presentation to TM/RSE team about our plugin, if it might be useful.

 

 

Regards
Virender

 


From: Doug Schaefer [mailto:DSchaefer@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 8:59 PM
To: Kumar, Virender
Cc: PDL ECLIPSE INDIA; Martin Oberhuber
Subject: RE: Contribution questionnaire

Hi Virender,

 

What it comes down to is that TM/RSE is solving the same problems you are, and your solution really falls into the domain of that project. You should be dealing with Martin O, the lead of that project, to see how your contribution fits the needs of the community where RSE does not. The community is settling on RSE as the solution for all things remote. If there are areas where you can contribute functionality as an add-on to RSE, I’m sure the community would feel that is the best approach.

 

Doug Schaefer, QNX Software Systems
Eclipse CDT Project Lead, http://cdtdoug.blogspot.com


From: Kumar, Virender [mailto:virender.kumar@xxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 1:15 AM
To: Doug Schaefer
Cc: PDL ECLIPSE INDIA
Subject: RE: Contribution questionnaire

 

Hello Doug

We are planning to assess the possibility of working with the TM/RSE team to address the duplication concerns. The first step for this would be to know the concerns and expectations of the community. So, I would request you to articulate these or point us to the person who would be in a position to do this. We plan to do a feasibility study based on our discussions with the community.

Regards
Virender

 


From: Doug Schaefer [mailto:DSchaefer@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 9:06 PM
To: Kumar, Virender
Cc: PDL ECLIPSE INDIA
Subject: RE: Contribution questionnaire

I think the link to the HP site is fine for the binaries at this stage. The source is needed on the eclipse.org site for the IP review. The binaries aren’t.

 

I am still seeking approval from the community on this and I have received concern from the Eclipse Management Organization about the potential duplication with the Remote System Explorer. As you’ve seen, Martin O from the TM/RSE project is starting to look. Again, we’ll need a wide review, including the CDT, PTP, and DSDP/TM commuities before we can really proceed. It also looks like the IP review is held up until then as well. We can’t provide PCM approval until we know there are no serious concerns from these communities. And the IP review won’t start until the PMC approval is received.

 

Doug Schaefer, QNX Software Systems
Eclipse CDT Project Lead, Tools PMC Member


From: Kumar, Virender [mailto:virender.kumar@xxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 12:25 AM
To: Doug Schaefer
Cc: PDL ECLIPSE INDIA
Subject: RE: Contribution questionnaire

 

Hello Doug

 

We have created the bugzilla entry for our plug-in (Bug 168048). I had one more question. We wanted to submit the release binaries for our plug-in to the community also. These binaries are of the order of 20MB and thus could not be attached to the bug.

 

We have given a URL from where these can be downloaded (www.hp.com/go/eclipse-remotedevplugin). However, is there a way we could submit these to CDT and make them available to the Eclipse community.

 

Regards

Virender.

 


From: Doug Schaefer [mailto:DSchaefer@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 6:13 PM
To: Kumar, Virender; Doug Schaefer; Anantharama Sarma, Syamala (STSD)
Cc: Sarkar, Sumit; Krithivasan, Balasubramaniyan (STSD); PDL ECLIPSE INDIA
Subject: RE: Contribution questionnaire

Yes, please create a bugzilla entry.

 

Thanks,

Doug Schaefer, QNX Software Systems
Eclipse CDT Project Lead, Tools PMC Member


From: Kumar, Virender [mailto:virender.kumar@xxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 4:44 AM
To: Doug Schaefer; Anantharama Sarma, Syamala (STSD)
Cc: Sarkar, Sumit; Krithivasan, Balasubramaniyan (STSD); PDL ECLIPSE INDIA
Subject: RE: Contribution questionnaire

 

Hello Doug

 

We have submitted the source code and documentation for HP C/C++ remote developer plugin at IPZilla entry mentioned in previous message. However, since this is not accessible to all the developers in Eclipse community, should we go ahead and create a Bugzilla entry for our plug-in. We plan to attach the source code, release binaries and documentation, to it.

 

Regards

Virender. 

 


From: Doug Schaefer [mailto:DSchaefer@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 8:11 PM
To: Anantharama Sarma, Syamala (STSD); Doug Schaefer
Cc: Sarkar, Sumit; Krithivasan, Balasubramaniyan (STSD); PDL ECLIPSE INDIA
Subject: RE: Contribution questionnaire

You will need to supply the source code for everything you would like to distribute from eclipse.org.

 

Documentation would be nice and will be necessary for the community review.

 

Thanks!

Doug Schaefer, QNX Software Systems
Eclipse CDT Project Lead, Tools PMC Member


From: Anantharama Sarma, Syamala (STSD) [mailto:ananthsy@xxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 1:52 AM
To: Doug Schaefer
Cc: Sarkar, Sumit; Krithivasan, Balasubramaniyan (STSD); PDL ECLIPSE INDIA
Subject: Contribution questionnaire

 

Hi Doug

We submitted the contribution questionnaire for the remote developer plugin today. We have got the following Ipzilla entry:

https://dev.eclipse.org/ipzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1074

We will be submitting the source zip in a couple of days.

We have a couple of questions about the source zip submission:

1. Should we just submit only the sources as part of this zip or we should include any documents as well?
2. There is one binary that we are using in our product which was developed by HP. Should the zip include that as well?

Thanks
Syamala