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Hi Doug,
the new schedule for short talks is a very good
idea.
I'm sure that will help people a lot who are trying
to
cover those short talks that are relevant for
them.
I agree that the long talk for TM is not
necessary
when we've got a short talk and a short
tutorial.
Cheers,
--
Martin Oberhuber
Target Management Project
Lead, DSDP PMC Member
http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm
Yes,
two 4-hr tutorials became three 2-hr tutorials. I know (8 != 6),
but I think Bjorn is leaving some spacing.
I
generally agree with your suggestions, but with only 5 long talks available,
it’s going to be hard to accommodate a long talk for every project. I
wish we had more, given that DSDP is a lot like Tools…each project is
independent. But you know how it goes. There’s always more content
than available time. “External” in the table below does refer to what
comes in through EclipseZilla that’s not directly from one of the DSDP
projects. I didn’t make my table add up, though, so perhaps that was
confusing.
Short
talks are going to be organized differently this year. Instead of having
a bunch in parallel, a set of 5 or 6 short talks will overlap with long talks,
so there will only be 1 short talk sessions going on at any given time.
This will reduce people attempting to switch rooms. I’m certain we could
group all of the mobile and embedded short talks together,
too.
Anyway,
these were only suggestions based on everyone’s feedback so far.
Flexibility is good, and we should wait and see what comes in through
EZilla. However, if the schedule is like last year, we won’t have a lot
of time to figure this out, which is what I’m working on it now. Here’s
last year’s schedule:
Oct
15 – Keynotes
Nov
1 – Tutorial deadline
Dec
1 – Long talk deadline (extended from Nov 15)
Two
rounds of short talk selections that finished in Dec and
Feb.
From:
dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Oberhuber, Martin
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 3:32
AM
To: DSDP PMC list
Subject: RE: [dsdp-pmc] Eclipse Con
2007
Hi
Doug,
just
to be clear -- from the original allocation
|
Long |
Short |
Panel/Demo |
Tutorial |
|
Mobile |
3 |
3 |
1 |
1 |
|
DSDP |
2 |
3 |
1 |
1 |
the
two 4-hour tutorials were now converted into 3 2-hour tutorials,
right?
So based on the current plan, we'll have 3 more long
talks,
and 2
more demo/panels to fill, right?
Anyways,
I do not think we should fill all our slots already now,
and
leave some room to see what comes in through
EclipseZilla.
I
guess that's what you meant by "external".
- TmL
might become mature enough for a long talk by EclipseCon next year.
- For
TM, I could also imagine doing a Long Talk in addition to the VLT/2-hour
tutorial.
- Did
MTJ have a long talk last year? If not, doing both a Long Talk and a VLT
might be appropriate.
- Same
for eRCP.
My
point is tha the Short Talks are really _so_ short that you can't really
explain a
technology.
Also, people are not so free to choose from the short talks since
they
cannot
change rooms while they are ongoing.
OK, so
currently we have 3 long talks, 2 short talks and 2 demo/panels
open.
It
might be better to leave 2 long / 3 short / 2 demos
open.
Cheers,
--
Martin Oberhuber
Target
Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm
From:
dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Gaff, Doug
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 10:59
PM
To: DSDP PMC list
Subject: RE: [dsdp-pmc] Eclipse Con
2007
Hi
folks,
Based
on our discussion today, here is my best guess at allocations. This
leaves room for some external user-related talks. I know it’s early to
think about EclipseCon, but I want to have our ducks in a row when the
submission period opens up. Comments?
VLT
= Very Long Talk = 2 hour tutorial on Monday
Doug
|
Long |
Short |
Panel/Demo |
VLT |
Notes |
|
DD |
1 |
|
|
|
Long
talk to update on DSF, SPIRIT, Multi-core |
|
TM |
|
1 |
|
1 |
Tutorial
TM 1.0. |
|
MTJ |
|
1 |
|
1 |
Tutorial
MTJ 0.x. |
|
NAB |
1 |
|
|
|
Long
talk on NAB with demo |
|
eRCP |
|
1 |
|
1 |
Tutorial
eRCP 1.0. |
|
TML |
? |
1 |
|
|
Short
or long talk on TmL |
|
external |
|
2 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Total |
2 |
6 |
0 |
3 |
|
|
Alloc |
5 |
6 |
2 |
3 |
|
From:
dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Gaff, Doug
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 11:09
AM
To: DSDP PMC list
Cc:
gorkem.ercan@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [dsdp-pmc] Eclipse Con
2007
Hi
all,
I
realized that I forgot to give you the current allocation in my last email.
This was communicated at the council meetings in Chicago. I
suspect there is some flexibility and trading that can go on based on the
needs of others. Rich and I are discussing what the distinction is
supposed to be between DSDP and Mobile, but both tracks are clearly related
to our projects.
|
Long |
Short |
Panel/Demo |
Tutorial |
|
Mobile |
3 |
3 |
1 |
1 |
|
DSDP |
2 |
3 |
1 |
1 |
Anyway,
we have 6 independent and distinct projects to cover, so we’ll have to
collectively figure out what the layout of material should be. We also
need to accommodate user tracks in this total count, as Mark suggests below
with his ideas for eRCP.
Doug
From:
dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Mark Rogalski
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 9:54
AM
To: DSDP PMC list
Cc:
gorkem.ercan@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [dsdp-pmc] Eclipse Con
2007
Yes, I think IBM
will have someone attend for eRCP. However, I'm thinking that we might want
to show more on how eRCP is being used in products rather than just describe
the project again. That would be a long talk.
I think a 4 hour
tutorial is too long for eRCP. If there were 2 hour slots I think we would
be interested. Gorkem, what do you think?
A short talk
might be good just to go over the latest happenings with the project.
Hi PMC,
I would
like to get a quick survey of your intended participation in EclipseCon next
year so I can make sure there are allocated slots.
Can
each of you respond to the following?
- Would
you like to do a tutorial for your project?
- Would you like
to do one or more long talks for your project? How many?
- Would
you like to do a short talk for your project?
Please
respond ASAP.
Thanks,
Doug
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