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Re: [dsdp-mtj-dev] Symbol Set definition from antenna

EclipseME does not support this. 

On Nov 5, 2008, at 2:04 AM, Ales Milan (Inlogic Software s.r.o.) wrote:

Hi Feng,

Yes, I mean device.xml, groups.xml...
This functionality is in antenna plugin. Not directly in eclipseME functionality i think. I'm using eclipseme+antenna plugin.
But i think when we have path to antenna plugin why not use database of definition symbol set.

These XML file is coming from j2mepolish.org site.. There is choice to download latest xml file. Later could be good possibility to import this file.
I'll add comment to bug=253860.

Thanks
Ales


Feng.Wang@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:

Hi Ales,

Thank you for propose this use case.
Now I understand whant you expect. You want MTJ have a function that import symbol sets from device.xml file in antenna.jar, may be also from groups.xml file in antenna.jar. I guess it will be a nice feature for J2ME develop.

I suggest you add a comments on this bugzilla entry https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=253860 , or create a new bugzilla entry aginst MTJ, to describe what you want. It will be a reminder for us to consider to add that features.
Your experience on J2ME and your suggestion is very valuable for us:)
BTW, have EclipseME already has that feature you suggest?

Hi Craig,

Have you any suggestion about the feature requirement that Ales suggested?


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Feng(Marvin) Wang(王峰)

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Hi Feng,

export/import will be great functionality but maybe for release 0.9.1 enough when MTJ import from antenna.jar file symbol sets. MTJ have defined path to antenna.jar lib. So, my suggestion is search in antenna.jar XML file with symbol definition sets, then offer these devices in combobox on tab Symbol Set Definitions. If this functionality will be supported i can complete swith to MTJ from EclipseME :)

Ales.

Feng.Wang@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:

Hi
Christian,

1. Now we keep auto-generated symbols (generated from device properties and Libs) in project scope.
2. I will remove the auto-generate symbols function (add by Diego in MTJ0.9) when user import device. This means that auto-generated symbols will not store in workspace scope.

3. I keep workspace level Symbol Set Define function as it is. This means user can manually define a group of Symbol Set in workspace level, and choose one Symbol Set for a Mitlet project.


So, for each Midlet project, user will have a group of auto-generated symbol set(can also modify manually) and one user manually defined symbol set.


For workspace level Symbol Set import/export/duplicate, I think it's useful. I will open a bug to record this requirement, but I am not sure if I can add this function in 0.9.1.

For project leval Symbol Set, because it can be aotu-generated, plus user modify, I don't think import/export/duplicate are quite necessary. But may be nice to have.



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In EclipseME, it used to be possible to set the symbols on the project
properties.  I haven't looked to see if it is still there on MTJ or
maybe it morphed?

I like the idea of having import, export and duplicate options for the
symbol definitions.  That seems nicely consistent with the rest of the
functionality.

Craig

Christian Kurzke wrote:
> Hi Ales,
>
> Thank you for pointing out this use case.
>
> The whole functionality of Symbols  and multiple device support is
> currently being actively worked on in MTJ. The main developers for
> this are Allen and Marvin from Sybase.
> Craig, can you please also chime in, whether there is anything in
> EclipseME which we can learn from?
>
>
> First let me try to summarize the problem identified by Ales:
>
> Currently the Antenna preprocessor symbols get populated via UEI
> return values from the installed SDK. (thanks Gustavo for clarifying
> this for me)
> A user can add/customize symbols in the dialog:
> Window->Preferences->J2ME->Symbol Set Definition
>
> There is no way to store or load existing symbol definitions.
>
>
> My suggestion would be to add a "import" and "export"  (or should it
> be load and save?) option to this above mentioned dialog.
> This would allow to store the symbols and load new ones. As a
> file-format I suggest to use the Antenna symbol file format.
>
> In addition Eric suggested also to add a "Duplicate" function to the
> dialog,  to make it easier for developers to create new sets from old
> ones.
>
>
> My observation was that I don't see how the Symbol Sets can currently
> be assigned to projects.
> According to Gustavo, this is part of the work Sybase is currently doing.
>
>
>
> Allen and Marvin, can you please confirm whether you can integrate
> this into the new 0.9.1 release?
> Do we need a bug for this, or is this already being worked on?
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> (and thanks Ales for the input!)
>
> Christian
>
>
>
>
>
> Ales Milan (Inlogic Software s.r.o.) wrote:
>> Hi There,
>> First I would like to thanks for your activity on MTJ. I'm fans of MTJ.
>> I check the current status of MTJ and i got one question. In EclipseME
>> I'm using symbols which are predefinned in antenna project.
>> So, how I can import these devices to
>> Window->Preferencies->J2ME->Symbol Set Definition?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Ales
>>
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