Hi Ed,
Thanks for bringing this.
I was actually waiting for the best opportunity to start
discussing a very related topic, but from a maintenance POV
not a user one, and I think this is a good one:
*What is the value and quality of SimRel? Is it worth it's
cost?*
As you're highlighting, the actual SimRel doesn't result in
good "common" toolset. Installing whole SimRel leads to a
failing or non-usable IDE. So is this non-functional thing
worth it?
EPP packages behave fine, they're tested and delivered to
the target audience in a good enough shape. Marketplace is now
the main and best entry-point for many features and fits much
better into typical user workflows
Does SimRel bring anything really good beyond EPP packages?
Anything good enough to be worth the maintenance effort?
Is it an interesting exercise to expect all Eclipse
Platform plugins in the Eclipse Foundation to work properly
together as the same application? Who is actually likely to
invest in making their specific plugins fit better with all
other Eclipse plugins if the typical audience doesn't care?
My opinion on this is that SimRel is nowadays a giant hard
to maintain inconsistent effort, and that EPP and Marketplace
have superseded it and made it not so profitable anymore.
I would suggest that we just abandon SimRel in favor of EPP
building packages and a p2 repository containing all the
dependencies for these packages; and other plugins should just
target Marketplace as entry point, until they reach a good
enough quality and value to get into some EPP package.
Cheers,