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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Making SimRel Great Again

Hi,

thanks for spelling it out for us. The problem was not clear to me just looking at the reports (I still cannot see what is wrong looking at it now).

I am following conversation on the lists, but not all discussions in detail.

I will try to update the GEF dependencies for our M3 contribution.

Best regards,
Matthias
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Am 18.11.2019 um 10:57 schrieb Ed Merks <ed.merks@xxxxxxxxx>:

SimRel Participants,

While we're making progress on improving the state of the SimRel repo for 2019-12, without the active involvement of the ~80 teams contributing content, we're still going to fall far short of an acceptable quality benchmark.

Many projects simply need to do a new build to use the proper and correct version of SUA 2.0 from CBI and to use the latest Orbit dependencies. 

Roland Grunberg has been kind enough to publish a new Orbit I-build to ensure that there are no bundles signed  with expired root certificates:

  https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=552251

The Orbit dependencies that you contribute to the train should come from there, and not some antiquated older version.  You should also look closely at whether your contributed or Orbit dependencies  align those contributed by other projects.  Currently 55 bundles are contributed as duplicates which is something we ought to avoid.  But at this point, duplicates is the least of my concern.  Just don't contribute old versions of com.google.inject.assistedinject_3.0.0.v201402270930 and org.antlr.runtime_3.0.0.v200803061811.

That mean the ATL teams needs to pay attention

https://download.eclipse.org/oomph/archive/reports/download.eclipse.org/staging/2019-12/index/org.eclipse.m2m.atl.dsls_4.1.0.v201909021645.html#osgi.bundle;_org.antlr.runtime_[3.0.0,3.1.0)

Also the GEF team:

https://download.eclipse.org/oomph/archive/reports/download.eclipse.org/staging/2019-12/index/org.eclipse.gef.mvc.fx.ui_5.1.1.201910161621.html#java.package;_com.google.inject.assistedinject_[1.3.0,1.4.0)

These dependency ranges will force the old problematic version.

What concerns me most is that some teams are completely unresponsive:

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=551591
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=551550

So it heartens me to see  others who have taken active steps:

https://github.com/eclipse/eclipse-collections/issues/763

Out of respect for all those many active participants who work tirelessly to contribute high quality results, please consider that your inaction reflects poorly on all of us.  In the end, the user doesn't care or know where things come from, they are faced with dialogs displaying many "duplicate" licenses, they see dialogs asking them to accept expired (root) certificates, and dialogs to accept the installation of  unsigned content.   It just doesn't give the user a warm fuzzy feeling that they're about to install something really great and that undermines the effort of hundreds of us who are working hard to give a great first impression and well as a lasting good impression.

This is is the future state for M3 if no further action is taken:

  https://download.eclipse.org/oomph/archive/reports/download.eclipse.org/staging/2019-12/index.html

That state is a result of your contributions:

 https://download.eclipse.org/oomph/archive/simrel/

I believe there are a significant number of contributions that have simply died long ago but their input lingers on in a limbo zombie state.  Those will need to be removed...  And when one sees contributions coming from archive.eclipse.org, or with neon, oxygen, and photon in the name, or ending with "snapshots", you know that's likely questionable and is likely old crap or totally unstable in terms of content.

Regards,
Ed






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