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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Can DTP join EGit in Oxygen.2 respin?

Another option could be: even "inactive" projects could be required,
to perform builds against each SimRel milestone, even when contributing
a previous version. This should ensure that code still works (compiles
and passes tests) against updated dependencies.

I don't think this should be much of a burden on "maintainers".

Stephan

On 16.12.2017 17:43, Konstantin Komissarchik wrote:
Dani,


DTD did participate in Oxygen, but DTP is in maintenance mode with no one actively working on it. The only time a new build or release is made is when a critical need arises. Such event happened in Oxygen M4 with Lucene changes, so DTP produced a 1.14 build at that point and went dormant again. In particular, it was not rebuilt with the following milestones.


In my opinion, the deprecate and announce policy of API removal isn't effective for projects like DTP. There is a huge code base. Only a small part is going to be examined and only when something breaks. There is no one to notice the deprecation warnings. Similarly, when the announcement comes, it relies on someone either (a) recognizing that their project depends on that API, or (b) proactively searching through the code base for references. Neither of these is very likely to happen for a maintenance mode project. What would have helped is strict adherence to OSGi versioning convention (major version bump) as that would have broken DTP aggregation and triggered a need for a rebuild, so problematic references would have been caught and fixed.


Thanks,


- Konstantin




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Hi Konstantin

Did DTP not participate in Oxygen in June? There the class was already deleted, so, DTP should have run into this in June already.

Note that we announced the deletion on this mailing list.

Dani



From: Konstantin Komissarchik <konstantin.komissarchik@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Date: 15.12.2017 17:46
Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Can DTP join EGit in Oxygen.2 respin?
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Dani,

It wasn’t an internal. It was a deprecated class that was removed. Since DTP isn’t actively being developed, no one saw the deprecation warnings. A major version bump would have allowed the removal to be caught earlier…

org.eclipse.jface.util.ListenerList (removed)

org.eclipse.core.runtime.ListenerList (replacement)


Thanks,

- Konstantin

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 platform made an API change after that which broke some of the DTP functionality

Do you have a bug report for that? The platform usually doesn't break APIs. Did DTP maybe use internals?

Dani



From: Konstantin Komissarchik <konstantin.komissarchik@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx" <cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 14.12.2017 22:11
Subject: [cross-project-issues-dev] Can DTP join EGit in Oxygen.2 respin?
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Could someone forward this to the Planning Council, please?

I am currently working with Nick Boldt to transition DTP releng responsibility. In the meantime, the version of DTP in Oxygen.2 has compatibility issues. It was last build with Oxygen.0.M4 and platform made an API change after that which broke some of the DTP functionality. The 1.14.1 release that contains the fix is ready to go. Since EGit has initiated a respin, would it be possible for DTP to join. The change is low risk. Basically changing package names for a class that now must be found in a different plugin and corresponding version updates.

Thanks,

- Konstantin


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