Hi
We (EMF Parsley) depend on Xtext as well
(besides EMF). It's not clear
to me what we should do... add our p2 site to
the simrel and push for
review and that will fail? Or something else?
thanks in advance
Lorenzo
On 09/08/2016 18:10, Ed Willink wrote:
> Hi
>
> What if e.g. UML went AWOL?
>
> This is exactly what happened a few years
ago when OCL went
> committer-less. So many projects depended
and wanted to help that
> someone had to get the rule book out and
decide that since Eclipse is a
> meritocracy, that the active Bugzilla
contributors took precedence over
> panicking companies.
>
> The same would happen again for any +1 and
probably +2 project.
>
> Clients have three options:
>
> - just occasionally a dependency can be
eliminated
>
> - just occasionally a dependency can be
rewritten, but it may take many
> man years of effort
>
> - much more practically a dependency gets
rescued and put on minimal
> maintenance (e.g. EMFq, EMFt, EMFv).
>
> So by pretending that we must wait for
+1/+2 dependencies, we waste a
> lot of time for those who are trying to
contribute. It is just not real.
> +1/+2's should carry over automatically.
>
> You suggest that we should notify
dependencies that we are waiting. Are
> you joking? Why should I waste my time and
EMF's time by suggesting that
> it is about time for them to contribute.
EMF is a -1/+1 contribution. Of
> course it should know that it should
contribute.
>
> Regards
>
> Ed Willink
>
> On 09/08/2016 16:10, David M Williams
wrote:
>> I am sure improvements can be made, but
the key -- from my point of
>> view -- is that projects smooth out
their processes and dependencies,
>> rather than "the big guy in the sky"
blindly makes everything work
>> just fine for everyone by making a lot
of assumptions that may or may
>> not be accurate. To force something
positive out of this difficult
>> period of time, it does give projects
an opportunity to think through
>> your dependencies and if you really
want or have to depend on them.
>> For one, completely made up example,
what would you do if "UML
>> Project" decided not to participate any
more? What if it was
>> "terminated"? What is your contingency
plan? Does something need to be
>> refactored? Made optional? Or, perhaps
even move to some other project?
>
>
>
>
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