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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8?

How about first placing the download location(s) a bit more prominently on the website? 
The “official” download/install instructions seem to be in the wiki (wiki.eclipse.org/JDT/Eclipse_Java_8_Support_For_Kepler). That doesn’t look very official and rather looks like it is ready for bleeding edge hackers.
On the landing page (eclipse.org), I just see a link to a blog entry on Java8 support somewhere in the middle. Not very official either.
The download page (eclipse.org/downloads) doesn’t contain *any* hint.

Am 23.03.2014 um 20:32 schrieb Doug Schaefer <dschaefer@xxxxxxx>:

> I would think that if they are advanced enough to jump on Java 8 the minute it releases, they can figure out how to install the Java 8 support into Kepler.
> 
> Doug.
> 
> ________________________________________
> From: cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] on behalf of Konstantin Komissarchik [konstantin.komissarchik@xxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 11:25 AM
> To: 'Cross project issues'
> Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8?
> 
> There have been numerous calls for Java 8 support on the stable Kepler base
> and patches have been prepared accordingly. This is a discussion of a better
> way to package and distribute these existing Kepler patches. Many users who
> do not typically consume Eclipse milestones are not happy with using a Luna
> milestone for Java 8 support as numerous other areas are in flux and
> unstable. From this perspective, the proposed J8 release would be
> significantly more stable in general than M7.
> 
> - Konstantin
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ed
> Willink
> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 8:11 AM
> To: Cross project issues
> Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8?
> 
> Hi
> 
> Surely anyone trying to use Java 8 before June is a bleeding edge user, so
> what is wrong with M6/M7?
> 
> Any pretence that a J8 release, sooner than M7, is of higher quality than
> the M7 release is just misleading. Few projects have used it so there will
> be numerous serious but often trivial problems to fix. Bug
> 430875 is the first from me.
> 
>     Regards
> 
>         Ed Willink
> 
> On 21/03/2014 14:59, Konstantin Komissarchik wrote:
>>> Are you talking about separate update site with java 8 patches for
>>> kepler
>> or full-blown release?
>> 
>> My preference is for a full release. If that doesn't happen, we can
>> discuss an aggregate repo of patches, which doesn't paint Eclipse in
>> the best light, but is somewhat better than many separate repos with
> patches.
>> 
>>> In any case, m2e does not plan to participate. Anyone who wants to
>>> use m2e
>> with java 8 support
>>> on kepler will have to install m2e 1.5 milestone/snapshot build from
>>> m2e
>> specific repository.
>> 
>> Ok.
>> 
>> - Konstantin
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>> Igor Fedorenko
>> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 7:53 AM
>> To: cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8?
>> 
>> Are you talking about separate update site with java 8 patches for
>> kepler or full-blown release?
>> 
>> In any case, m2e does not plan to participate. Anyone who wants to use
>> m2e with java 8 support on kepler will have to install m2e 1.5
>> milestone/snapshot build from m2e specific repository.
>> 
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Igor
>> 
>> On 2014-03-21, 10:44, Konstantin Komissarchik wrote:
>>> The issue is that features beyond JDT need to be updated before Java
>>> 8 is supported across various Eclipse features. In particular, WTP
>>> needs Java 8 facet version before web application developers can take
>>> advantage of Java 8. There may be others.
>>> 
>>> In case this goes forward, *could other projects that need to
>>> distribute Java 8 enablement signal so on this thread so that we know
>>> who would be
>>> participating?*
>>> 
>>> - Konstantin
>>> 
>>> *From:*cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of
>>> *Daniel Megert
>>> *Sent:* Friday, March 21, 2014 12:53 AM
>>> *To:* Cross project issues
>>> *Subject:* Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8?
>>> 
>>> Hi Konstantin
>>> 
>>> Can you explain why you need two patches? For me the given
>>> instructions
>>> <https://wiki.eclipse.org/JDT/Eclipse_Java_8_Support_For_Kepler>work
>>> fine and those involve only one patch / repo.
>>> 
>>> Dani
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: "Konstantin Komissarchik" <konstantin.komissarchik@xxxxxxxxxx
>>> <mailto:konstantin.komissarchik@xxxxxxxxxx>>
>>> To: "'Cross project issues'" <cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>> <mailto:cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>> Date: 20.03.2014 15:51
>>> Subject: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8?
>>> Sent by: cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>> <mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> 
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> -
>>> --
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I am wondering if we should do a limited SR release to pickup Java 8
>>> patches. As it stands, Eclipse users interested in Java 8 would have
>>> to hunt for and install at least two patches, which doesn't paint
>>> Eclipse in a good light.
>>> 
>>> Thoughts?
>>> 
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